so wich class/job shares a gearset with rog/ninja?

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Originally Posted by nugglets

Let me get this straight, BRD could have a dagger but not BLM/SMN?

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Exactly this! Sometimes the gear has useless accessories tied to them that might appear they use it for another purpose.

Like the BLM AF gear has a book attached to the side, but they aren't an Arcanist.
And the WHM AF robe has a duck on the side, but they aren't .... uhhhhh...

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Except that FFXIV defines DEX as a ranged damage attribute only, which is why only Bard uses it. They would have to re-define DEX for it to share gear.

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Not saying this will happen, but it wouldn't be very difficult to add a line that says "... and dual-wield damage."

Traditional in ff there have been some blms that carry daggers and it looks like casting gear, not like a brd gear

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Originally Posted by Shadowedge

Not saying this will happen, but it wouldn't be very difficult to add a line that says "... and dual-wield damage."

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and i will ask you something, why modify the rule of the game instead to simply put rogue with monk? i means a ninja is a swift and nimble like a monk, not precise like a bard... another point, the bard armor so far are soo bad for the ninja... without forget one of the most important point that will make any fan of FF furious... the fuma set of CT is a str stuff for monk... but at the base it's a ninja armor!

I think it will be

MNK - - TANK - - DRG
HEAL - - BRD/NIN - - CASTER

Or:
BRD/NIN -- TANK - - DRG
HEAL - - MNK - - CASTER

I still feel DEX is getting a description change with the patch, and Aiming accessories are getting renamed too

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Originally Posted by PArcher

I think it will be

MNK - - TANK - - DRG
HEAL - - BRD/NIN - - CASTER

I still feel DEX is getting a description change with the patch, and Aiming accessories are getting renamed too

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How can you not think the top left one is Rogue/Ninja? Its a color palette armor of the same exact attire the Rogue is getting promoted in. Sounds like a lot also just to put a melee in a DEX category just for the sake of doing something different, which isn't necessary at all. STR is fine.

http://i4.minus.com/izl3yUCduRZAX.jpg

Second and third set are awfully similar to the Koenig and Ares set in FFXI.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...0px-Koenig.pnghttp://www.bg-wiki.com/images/thumb/...#39;sArmor.JPG

Rogue/Ninja is a physical melee DPS class, so my money's on them using Strength as their primary stat and sharing gear type with PUG/MNK (ninja in heavy armor makes no sense).

There is an outside chance Dexterity could be redefined depending on class/job, though. On the one hand, there is only one physical ranged job so it seems like a waste of a stat to have it exclusive to Archers/Bards (they could alter the meaning of Dex to pertain to "finesse" attacks). On the other hand, unless there is some need to make this change or they have plans for other classes that will use this, there is not really a practical reason to change it up.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Rogue/Ninja is a physical melee DPS class, so my money's on them using Strength as their primary stat and sharing gear type with PUG/MNK (ninja in heavy armor makes no sense).

There is an outside chance Dexterity could be redefined depending on class/job, though. On the one hand, there is only one physical ranged job so it seems like a waste of a stat to have it exclusive to Archers/Bards (they could alter the meaning of Dex to pertain to "finesse" attacks). On the other hand, unless there is some need to make this change or they have plans for other classes that will use this, there is not really a practical reason to change it up.

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I am very sure Archer/Bard will not be the only job on this game's entirety to share Aiming sets. Musketeer itself is a gun using class and would fit just fine in the DEX category.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Rogue/Ninja is a physical melee DPS class, so my money's on them using Strength as their primary stat and sharing gear type with PUG/MNK (ninja in heavy armor makes no sense).

There is an outside chance Dexterity could be redefined depending on class/job, though. On the one hand, there is only one physical ranged job so it seems like a waste of a stat to have it exclusive to Archers/Bards (they could alter the meaning of Dex to pertain to "finesse" attacks). On the other hand, unless there is some need to make this change or they have plans for other classes that will use this, there is not really a practical reason to change it up.

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The problem is there is no description that can logically only apply to rog/nin and not monk.

Finesse, agillity, precision, whatever you want to use, to a section of the install base it will always appear like it should also apply to monk. Then when you start throwing new players into the mix with this idea you start getting issues.

More dex classes will come, but changing the stat description to balance the class for the sake of a few months sounds silly to me.