Why is Housing Such a High Priority?

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Originally Posted by jomoru

Counter point, why have more than 3 jobs(tank, healer, dps) and only one dungeon to run over and over again and instead they could put all their resources into making space for houses, I mean why should I care what you think since you clearly don't give a crap about anyone but yourself?

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How in the hell did you get offended by my post? lol. I worded it intentionally as to not offend any of the more sensitive forum goers. To answer your question, you shouldn't care what I think. What I think isn't going to change anything, I just wanted to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. As for why I would like to see more jobs, and yes, even more archetypes, it just personal preference. It's what I enjoy the most. I see you enjoy housing a lot, that's cool, no reason to get mad. lol

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Originally Posted by Nalien

High priority? What they added in 2.38 was fundamentally no different than what they added in 2.1, I don't think we've been losing endgame content for them to introduce this.

Plus, you know, different teams working on different things. If they dropped the housing team it doesn't mean the Coil team suddenly works faster, it just means we don't have housing.

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I feel like it's a big priority for them because it's talked about so much. It could be that is in light of the major problems it has had, but I feel like it's the number one thing Yoshi P. has talked about since release of 2.0.

As for the different teams theory, I'm sure the people working on housing are fully capable and qualified to work on other FFXIV content.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

I mean, housing is neat and all, and it's fun to make your own place, but seriously how important is it? I'm not saying that the progress should stop on the housing and land plots, but why is it such a high priority?

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It's simple: a lot of content is gated through housing. Gardening and everything that comes with it, along with all of the new chocobo content. People want access to these things, so housing is the Big Deal™ right now. Personally, my FC has a Medium house already so we're not really worried about it but I can certainly see why people are in an uproar about the short supply of housing. Every last Small plot on my server was gone within a few hours of the servers coming online from the maintenance. The Mediums are starting to disappear too.

BTW, you can edit posts to bypass the 1000 character limit. :3

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

I'd question whether or not housing was even a "priority" to the developers, considering how sloppily it was implemented.

On topic, this game's current structure really doesn't cultivate the amount of jobs 11 had, due to it following the standard MMORG holy trinity. More jobs would be nice to see, but with this model you can only have so many tanks/healers/DPS before they all start to feel the same.

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I feel what you are saying, but in my opinion it would be great if they revamped the job system eliminating classes all together and just having jobs and sub job skills. This would give them a lot more creative freedom than having to have jobs branch off classes. They wont do this of course, but Yoshi P. did mention that the jobs/class system will be seeing a lot of changes in the Expansion. He left no clues as to what he was referring to, but it will be interesting to find out as time goes on.

Even with the current system I could see them making it work with a level cap raise and more job specific skills.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

I feel like it's a big priority for them because it's talked about so much. It could be that is in light of the major problems it has had, but I feel like it's the number one thing Yoshi P. has talked about since release of 2.0.

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Actually Yoshida has talked about housing very little, that's part of the whole problem. Had he actually talked about it more often, perhaps we wouldn't have been left with nine month old information fueling misconceptions about personal housing.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

As for the different teams theory, I'm sure the people working on housing are fully capable and qualified to work on other FFXIV content.

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I'm sure they are (probably only level design though, since housing is mostly world objects), but you can't just throw more people at something, that isn't how this works. Putting too many people on a single project is terrible resource management and tends to have negative results. You cannot, for example, have one person working on Behemoths model, and go "Lets have another guy doing that to get it done twice as fast". That would be like going "Hey, let me play that game with you, we'll finish twice as fast", you simply cannot play games in that way.

At best you could hope to get Crystal Tower and Coil in every update, but somehow I don't think the housing team is that large or experience with such content. They design furniture, not boss mechanics. The most it would realistically achieve is more variety in zones and monster designs, it wouldn't speed up the release of endgame content. This is a theme park MMO, they should already be pushing out new content as fast as they can.

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

In my opinion housing and vanity gear is more important than other stuff.
It silly to use "important stuff" since whats important is up to the player

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Well I never used the term "important stuff", I realize what's important is suggestive. I just asked if housing is that important to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I'm not sure how you think housing has been a development time sink.

After they released it the only thing they have done is flipped a switch and added new expensive wards, flipped another code switch and allowed individual players with pockets lined with gold to buy housing as well.

Sure must have taken up alot of time to do that.

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I know you played in 1.0 because I remember your sig, so you are well aware of how much time they've spend on it during the production of 2.0 up through now. I'm not only speaking in regards to 2.38, so while I get that you are trying to be facetious, I honestly don't understand how you can believe that. The graphics, the concept art, the scenario design, the zones, the stress testing, the allocation of server space, etc. All of this took a considerable amount of time, and what my point is was it really worth it, and moving forward with the game do we really need to focus on housing that much more in the future?

Also, the point of my post wasn't really to argue how high of a priority it is; I just was wondering how many people consider it a priority at all. As for myself I couldn't care less about it.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

It's simple: a lot of content is gated through housing. Gardening and everything that comes with it, along with all of the new chocobo content. People want access to these things, so housing is the Big Deal™ right now. Personally, my FC has a Medium house already so we're not really worried about it but I can certainly see why people are in an uproar about the short supply of housing. Every last Small plot on my server was gone within a few hours of the servers coming online from the maintenance. The Mediums are starting to disappear too.

BTW, you can edit posts to bypass the 1000 character limit. :3

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Yeah, but that's kind of my point, they made it that way because they want housing to feel important, they didn't have to design it that way.

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Originally Posted by jomoru

I set my alarm and bought one. There's plenty of raiding stuff I just can't get past(might be not having a static, might be I suck). So from my perspective Housing is accessable, raiding is not.

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Ah, but can you physically enter the instance and work on the content? Yes.

The same cannot be said for housing.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

I feel like it's a big priority for them because it's talked about so much. It could be that is in light of the major problems it has had, but I feel like it's the number one thing Yoshi P. has talked about since release of 2.0.

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It's clearly high-priority for a lot of players. Yoshi talks about it because players continuosly bring it up. Judging by how they've implemented the system (one of the most bare-bones and inaccessible housing systems in any MMO I have ever seen), it is clearly not a priority for SE.

To answer the OP's question - personal housing had the potential to bring me back to the game. As it is now, my decision to not renew my sub when it comes up in... *checks* 13 days remains. :(

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Originally Posted by Mijin

Yeah, but that's kind of my point, they made it that way because they want housing to feel important, they didn't have to design it that way.

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Oh. Well then the answer is your question is 'because SE wanted it that way'. o.o

For whatever reason, they wanted the content gated/restricted. *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Mijin

All of this took a considerable amount of time.

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So let me get this your upset because of all the time that has allready been spent on housing?

So your litteraly crying over spilt milk.

What's done is done, they spent a bunch of time on a half baked housing system, released it way before it should have, and have had to continually battle community backlash at the poor implementation. All that time is allready been spent crying about how many people actually want it (Trust me it's a big thing for the casual side of things, good housing system can pull players from allover to the game)

But even if there was only 1 guy who wanted it, it's too late now to cry about the time that's been spent on it.

As it stands for now they are spending an obvious ammount of time (none) on doing anything with housing considering the promises for personal housing turned from being a whole new thing into flipping a FC ownership switch for permission to own a house.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

So let me get this your upset because of all the time that has allready been spent on housing?

So your litteraly crying over spilt milk.

What's done is done, they spent a bunch of time on a half baked housing system, released it way before it should have, and have had to continually battle community backlash at the poor implementation. All that time is allready been spent crying about how many people actually want it (Trust me it's a big thing for the casual side of things, good housing system can pull players from allover to the game)

But even if there was only 1 guy who wanted it, it's too late now to cry about the time that's been spent on it.

As it stands for now they are spending an obvious ammount of time (none) on doing anything with housing considering the promises for personal housing turned from being a whole new thing into flipping a FC ownership switch for permission to own a house.

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I'm not upset over anything actually, just curious how many people actually care about housing so much that it should be a top priority, and judging from most of the responses here so far it seems like it really is, so my question has been answered for the most part. When I brought up all the work they've done in the past I wasn't complaining, I was just correcting you because you said they've done nothing, and I don't feel that's accurate.

They can do what ever they want with their game, I have no right to get upset, I can be disappointed at times, but that's my problem. Like I've said several times now, I just want to know if people really care about housing, my OP is so sweet I should have put rainbows and carebears in between each paragraph, this isn't me trying to start a fight by saying "I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE", we all know how well those types of posts go on forums. Besides, I like housing, I just feel like it should take a major back seat to other content, like I said dozens of times already I was just curious how others felt.

As for how much time they will be spending on it in the future, you can rest assured that they'll be spending a considerable amount of time between now and 2.4 sorting out the issue with personal housing, and making more plots available. If it was an easy fix they would have had it ready for 2.38. Who know what more the future will hold, It's likely they have plans for more housing related content.