There's a lesson to be learned here

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Originally Posted by swordrain

You are completely delusional.

The problem is that NOTHING has changed. They lied to us. They lied to us. You are making excuses for them. Make an excuse that justifies that they LIED STRAIGHT TO YOUR FACE AND YOU DEFEND THEM STEALING FROM YOU. You are completely delusional. You have no retort because there is no retort. They lied to us. There is no justification. I paid for a car and they gave me a horse. There is no defense. They lied to us.

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Sword is just mad because they changed the idea of it being separate. Sword must also be more than one person, so much -we-.

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Originally Posted by Westwind

This is really disappointing. Since ARR launched I've been wanting a house all to my own, now I find out I can't afford it, and in the time it would take me to save up for one they'll all be sold out due to competition between FC's and other players.

I guess I'll start working overtime to earn gil for 2.4 but if they don't fix it in a way that will let me get a house I don't think I can wait much longer than that. I only resubbed because I heard housing was coming soon, and then this happened.

The money wouldn't be a problem if there were guaranteed a space when I could save it up, but the way it's looking I won't have time to earn that much. I don't doubt for a second that all the small plots will be gone within the first day or two on Balmung. Hopefully my FC can pick one up so I can at least buy a private room for the time being.

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They already said they were adding more wards in 2.4. Yoshida even went so far as to say that they would consider spending millions of dollars to expand their server if there is enough demand for more houses.

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Originally Posted by PenutButter

They already said they were adding more wards in 2.4. Yoshida even went so far as to say that they would consider spending millions of dollars to expand their server if there is enough demand for more houses.

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Yes, hence why I said I would work to earn money for 2.4.

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Originally Posted by Arky

At the minimum value, the house will be about 1m. Around the price they said, they didn't lie there, they changed a mechanic to make it possible, they didn't lie there. I'm sensing you're just a tad upset for other reasons and aren't being honest with yourself.

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The only thing he's really upset about is that he can't afford a house and don't want to work for it. That or that he can't afford a big house and don't want to work for it and is somehow bothered that others can afford it.

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Originally Posted by Arky

At the minimum value, the house will be about 1m. Around the price they said, they didn't lie there, they changed a mechanic to make it possible, they didn't lie there. I'm sensing you're just a tad upset for other reasons and aren't being honest with yourself.

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You aren't even listening. You are just twisting everything. They lied to us. How many times do I have to say it? They LIED TO US. They told us a new system would be implemented. They told us it would be cheaper. My guild paid 4m among all of us and were never able to buy a small house because of the land race. They told us the new system would be different and be cheaper. They lied to us. No amount of spinning or denial on your part will change that. They lied to us. They told me they'd be adding more content for my sub. They lied to me. They lied to everyone they told that too. They lied. They lied.

Your denial doesn't change the facts.

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Originally Posted by PenutButter

They already said they were adding more wards in 2.4. Yoshida even went so far as to say that they would consider spending millions of dollars to expand their server if there is enough demand for more houses.

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I am not sure about your server but on Balmung and many others, housing has been selling out rapidly. I am talking within hours of a new ward dropping, all lots are claimed. As for demand, this has been an ongoing irritation. I think a great deal of the problem here is that some servers are looking around at empty housing wards while others are completely bought out and struggling to support the massive amount of FC's waiting to buy. The solution would seem to be that wards should be added based upon demand per server, not cause larger servers to struggle until smaller ones populate. They demanded legacy servers pay more for our houses. We did. So provide the service we are waiting to purchase in accordance with the larger player base our servers house. At least, that would be my suggestion.

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Originally Posted by PenutButter

The only thing he's really upset about is that he can't afford a house and don't want to work for it. That or that he can't afford a big house and don't want to work for it and is somehow bothered that others can afford it.

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It has nothing to do with price. I'll work for my rewards, thanks. Just look at my character. I have every DoW/DoM at level 50. The housing I was promised won't be available because 1.7 million gil isn't enough to outbuy the auction house misers on Balmung who will buy every house within 10 minutes. They lied to us. They told us it would be a new system free from the problems of the old. They just changed one setting and added two new wards. There's nothing new. They lied to us.

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Originally Posted by Arky

At the minimum value, the house will be about 1m. Around the price they said, they didn't lie there, they changed a mechanic to make it possible, they didn't lie there. I'm sensing you're just a tad upset for other reasons and aren't being honest with yourself.

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You ignored my post, so I'll show the important part again.

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"Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
Personal Housing
While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."

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Bolded for emphasis. This is called a lie, and it led all of us to believe personal housing would be completely separate from FC housing, not just the same old thing.

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Originally Posted by Arky

At the minimum value, the house will be about 1m. Around the price they said, they didn't lie there, they changed a mechanic to make it possible, they didn't lie there. I'm sensing you're just a tad upset for other reasons and aren't being honest with yourself.

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"Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
Personal Housing
While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."

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They lied to us. How clear does it have to be? We're more than willing to work hard, that's why we play FFXIV instead of WoW. We are angry because they lied to us. Not because we have to work for our rewards. They LIED TO US. That's why we are upset. Why can't you comprehend what we are saying? How many times do I have to say it before you understand why I'm upset? They lied to us.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/192671

The sticky they just posted in case someone missed it.

It's still kinda garbage since FC housing and individual housing are still the same, but at least it's something.