Please re-evaluate the difficulty of previous endgame content on the DF

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Originally Posted by seriously

I'd like to think the Duty Finder is not just a tool for getting practice, but a way to experience the game's content in a more casual way without all the politics that come with Free Companies.

A way to extend DF time would also be nice. So many times a DF group hammers out all the mechanics just to run out of time.

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Practise in Duty Finder and then set up a party finder group. Make sure you're confident with the mechanics of the fights. I absolutely hate the Extremes but I've gotten at least three sets of wins (and a lot more Garuda Ex wins).

I think there's room for a style change in fights going forward but I struggled with Titan HM and got it eventually. Titan Ex is a horrible fight and even experienced groups hate it. There are other ways to gear up now. Gear up using ST and Hunts and then go back to these fights. It all helps.

But But But all the new people who just started mmo for the first time and I'll just stop their lol.

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Originally Posted by odintius

But But But all the new people who just started mmo for the first time and I'll just stop their lol.

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Being new to MMOs makes them less capable of following simple "when X happens do Y" instructions?

Are these people given a driver's license? Because if so I'm scared.

Between Echo, iLevel 100-110 items and youtube video describing every fight, if they intend to nerf content even further, they may as well just add an "I win button" and save people time. Because, really.

And you mention Mog Exe. It's arguably the easier primal, you can actually win it without any training since he doesn't have many 1HK moves and doesn't rely on dodging too much.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

You have echo, stop asking for handouts/free clears.

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Stop asking for handouts/free hunts from people who don't hold them for you.

Making T5 more of a handout than it already is will just make T6+ more of a shocker to new people. If they have to put in zero effort to clear coil 1, they will expect to be able to put in zero effort to clear coil 2.

The only even remotely difficult part in T5 is to keep up the DPS for conflags, snakes and dreadknight (and you have a 20% damage boost for that). There is nothing difficult in moving up the ditch when a green marker shows up and then go back down when Divebomb has finished, repeat twice and another 3 times soon after. There is nothing difficult in moving and not tracing back your, or another player's steps when Twister is casting, either. There is nothing difficult for OT to just stand in the neurolink in last phase and use cooldowns when targeted by Liquid Hell. There's nothing difficult in running along the edges when targeted by Liquid Hell.

It's just bad players being bad. The only thing T5 will unlock for you is the second coil (the loot is outdated by easier to get gear already), which is harder than T5. Twintania is the gatekeeper boss of second coil, and if you cannot beat her, you have no business in second coil anyway. No nerf needed. And T5 should either have no echo, or second coil should require an echoless T5 clear, that way you have proven you can actually have a chance in second coil.

I remember my first Ifrit EX clear. I was an i80 WAR way back in mid-2.1 and there was no Echo...

Now, no one even tries Ifrit EX without i90+ and at least 2 Stacks of Echo...

These old fights were completed originally by people in much weaker gear than what people have now (Ah, T1 in barely i70 gear with a Relic), and it wasn't just the hardcore that did these. Were most of the people "above average"? Yeah. But now with more gear and the Echo buffs...there should be no issues with completion.

Stop asking for carries people.

No, no, no. They already nerfed the older Content+added Echo(Which i think is good, to let newer player catch up), BUT theres no valid reason to make it even easier. You wanna know why? It doesnt make Sense to hand out free T5 wins when the Content after it is even harder. If you think after beating Twintania you´ve passed a Huge Wall and can go on with further Content and progress there, you gonna have a baaaad time.

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Originally Posted by Electrowitch

No, no, no. They already nerfed the older Content+added Echo(Which i think is good, to let newer player catch up), BUT theres no valid reason to make it even easier. You wanna know why? It doesnt make Sense to hand out free T5 wins when the Content after it is even harder. If you think after beating Twintania you´ve passed a Huge Wall and can go on with further Content and progress there, you gonna have a baaaad time.

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then nerf Second Coils too!!