BLM and SMN BUFFs info is coming out!! PATCH 2.3 Preliminary

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Originally Posted by Urielparadox

summoners are already 150dps over blm on t8. We still won't come close to you.I agree the smn changes make no since they are not enough to make ifrit more useful that's for sure.

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I'm not saying that SMN needs a buff or that BLM didn't deserve it, I'm quite happy with it.
I just can't see any reason behind the SMN changes, they might as well not be there at all.

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Originally Posted by ViviAnimus

If a SMN is 150 DPS above you on T8 and you should stop being a BLM. I get 330 on T6, 280 on T7, 370-380 on T8 and 260-280 on T9. This with one requiem at the start and not even battlevoiced. This buff that we're getting will result in +20 DPS at least. Which is more than enough and on par with other classes.

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+1

Some players are fucking bad, they compare their DPS with the best players using a different class and ask to be on par with them.

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Originally Posted by 65shion

Just absurd. The easiest class to play and now probably the one dealing most dps with requiem except, in some fights, monk. 108 mnk here with blm, brd and smn 108 aswell in my static, so i know what im talking about

Fire I 150 -> 170. With Astral Fire 270 -> 306
Fire III 220 -> 240. With Astral Fire 396 -> 432

Get ur shit together SE and give melee some love.

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Why does melee need anything aside from QoL changes?

@Urielparadox

Where are you getting your numbers from? BLM does a lot more than a bard playing songs and most certainly more if they are standing still. If you're doing less than a bard playing any song, you should really read up on your class. I've seen BLMs pull 420+ on T6, 330+ on T7, 430+ on T8, 310+ on T9. A lot of people keep comparing it to Monks but those high DPS monks are being enabled to do so, without the enabling of letting them ignore certain mechanics and getting TP song because they are burning through it, there's no way they can maintain it.

For the people who think that 20 potency isn't a lot...smh.

So disappointed they should have left Manawall alone! Scathe is our main spell that sould have gotten buffed and thanks for making apoc even more useless.

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Originally Posted by Shinlolz

A lot of people keep comparing it to Monks but those high DPS monks are being enabled to do so, without the enabling of letting them ignore certain mechanics and getting TP song because they are burning through it, there's no way they can maintain it.

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That and alot of monks keep "forgetting" to add that they have another monk doing the Dragonkicks for them. :p
While we do have the highest ST damage the boost we gain with another monk on dragonkick duty is ridiculous.

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Why does melee need anything aside from QoL changes?

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Area of Effect.

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Originally Posted by 65shion

Just absurd. The easiest class to play and now probably the one dealing most dps with requiem except, in some fights, monk. 108 mnk here with blm, brd and smn 108 aswell in my static, so i know what im talking about

Fire I 150 -> 170. With Astral Fire 270 -> 306
Fire III 220 -> 240. With Astral Fire 396 -> 432

Get ur shit together SE and give melee some love.

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I guess your buffs weren't good enough on MNK? BLM is indeed the easiest class to play but perhaps the hardest to fully optimize. BLM is - and I have all classes levelled and play them - by a mile the only class in which you have to know the fight in and out to optimise DPS. But that is my personal experience. Actually, when you know a class well, every class is easy as beans to play and get a hang of. SMN is way easier to me and a lot easier to get high DPS. But again, personal experience.

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Originally Posted by Atreides

That and alot of monks keep "forgetting" to add that they have another monk doing the Dragonkicks for them. :p
While we do have the highest ST damage the boost we gain with another monk on dragonkick duty is ridiculous.

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Ridiculous? Oh please. We had to replace our 2nd MNK who does the DKs on T8 for a week some time ago with a DRG and oh boy did my DPS drop an immense amount of 10 DPS overall. It's a measly advantage at best. What the high-parsing monks most likely are usually omitting though is that they aren't concerning themselves with mechanics during the fight.

Anoyone tell me the point behind the SMN changes? Is this seriously their attempt to make Ifrit of comparable use to Garuda?

Is this a joke? O.o

They were good alright, but mnk and drg definitely need QoL changes seeing how are current boss mechanics.
Anyways, people tend to forget why all of a "sudden" rise of BLM to the top of the dps charts happens, let me remind you: no other class have a perma 80% dmg boost on their abilities, not even mnk with GLIII+FoF+BfB+DK. What this means? the more gear blm gets, the more profit he gets than rest of the classes. It's a fact.

Same happened at the start of the game with mnk when everyone were saying they were shit. Until they were geared. As blms, they scale better than other classes with gear.