Dear SE, Yoshi, etc, remove Coil lock outs. Right now.

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Originally Posted by ruinedmirage

It could be a problem if a handful of groups master each turn in coil, carry everyone else past turn 4 (paid every step of the way) up to turn 9, they leave and all that's left are clueless players in high allagan after the good players have left. Carries put an abnormal amount of inexperienced players where they shouldn't be.

Sure, everyone wants a quick buck, but you're not taking into account the community being built because of it. It's very shortsighted and not good for the base skill at end-game when statistics show X amount of people cleared Y content, yet don't understand any of the mechanics. It's simply bad in the long term, and it's bad when people come to the forums and say, "I was carried through turn 10 of coil, why can't I beat 11? Nerf now!"

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I've never heard anyone say that but if they buy their way through turn 10, then they're going to buy their way through turn 11, 12, etc. It is what it is. Buying runs will always be a part of the game. Some people would rather spend time farming gil and paying for the carry rather than spending countless with pugs and still get nowhere. Buying runs will always be an "option" for them. You can prevent it by using current coil lockout but what about the new primals or any new extreme contents? How are you going to prevent people from selling those?

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Originally Posted by Vaer

Yep, demanding the developer to do something immediately on their forums has always worked.

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Communication between the community and the developers is really important.

Sadly we don't have someone that can be active here in the NA forums for FFXIV like you would see in other games. Hell despite LoL having constant updates, changes, and etc on nearly a weekly or bi-weekly basis the designers there are very active with the community.

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

No. Because then

1. people will run it over and. Over and full gear within a week, then complain
They have nothing to do, no content. Bla bla bla.

2. Runs will get sold and yeah... That whole argument.

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I agree with number 1...number 2...runs already getting sold on my server at least.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

Communication between the community and the developers is really important.

Sadly we don't have someone that can be active here in the NA forums for FFXIV like you would see in other games. Hell despite LoL having constant updates, changes, and etc on nearly a weekly or bi-weekly basis the designers there are very active with the community.

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I'm sure it is, but it usually takes a while for them to change things, not "immediately."

It's good for communication to go back and forth, but there are instances where the developer needs to be careful as you don't want the community to be making the game instead of you.

This thread highlights a problem that no one has solved yet. Content takes months to make, but lets hypothetically say there were no lockouts in this game. It would take the people who are "bored" right now, 1 week max to clear everything in a patch if you could just keep doing it over and over with no restrictions. They would still be bored. As this is a subscription game, this wouldn't bring them as much money financially.

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlare

I've never heard anyone say that but if they buy their way through turn 10, then they're going to buy their way through turn 11, 12, etc. It is what it is. Buying runs will always be a part of the game. Some people would rather spend time farming gil and paying for the carry rather than spending countless with pugs and still get nowhere. Buying runs will always be an "option" for them. You can prevent it by using current coil lockout but what about the new primals or any new extreme contents? How are you going to prevent people from selling those?

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I'm not for or against selling runs (seeing as I don't play anymore), just giving my opinion on why it's bad for the game and community in the long run. Though I don't subscribe or play FFXIV anymore, I don't have any malicious or negative feelings toward the game, and still wish the best for it and my friends still playing it. The best I can hope for is a great community that HELPS each other by explaining and learning, instead of taking advantage of the weak.

Eikiki, now you can call ME a dreamer....

With a coil lockout system, people are guaranteed faster loot, which means they ultimately have no reason to play for the rest of the week, unless it's to make gil by selling runs. Eh, it's not really my concern anymore, so..... nevermind.

Would you agree to lock out on the turns but not gear? You could do the turn multiple times to help people but you can only win loot on the first clear of the week.

Err meant lock out on the gear not the turns. Stupid moble site unable to edit

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

No. Because then

1. people will run it over and. Over and full gear within a week, then complain
They have nothing to do, no content. Bla bla bla.

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People will complain regardless of what is or isn't changed.

I could have sworn I read this question in a Q&A before and I just finally found it:

Attendee: With the one week lockouts on all of the end-game content, I feel like the armoury system is completely useless.
Yoshida: With the second coil, it's set up so your progress is saved and reset each week, with the idea being that you challenge it on your main job and take rewards for that job, and only take rewards for other jobs once other players dont need them. Are you talking about the fact that your job choice is limited?
Attendee: Honestly, it's not even so much about the rewards, I'd just like to participate in it again.
Yoshida: Hm?
Attendee: Once I clear the content in one week, I'd like to be able to at least try on another job.
Yoshida: You mean in the sense that you can help other people. In that case, our concern is that by being able to excessively help other people by going around with groups that can't clear the content on their own yet, the hierarchy of the more and more powerful items would be broken too quickly. We worry about this and this and the development team does understand the current circumstances. It's really a difficult question to answer, but that's why we've chosen our current policy and we'll continue to mitigate it in stages.

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