Benchmark for a SMN thread. (Yes this again.)

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Originally Posted by Huntington

I wouldn't have leveled Arcanist before anything else if I didn't like the class/Job somewhat, this is for conjecture and discussion purposes. If you want to yell at someone simply talking about the Job I'm fairly sure that Akiza is still out there. Nothing I've said is as outlandish as what they have proposed.

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First of all, im not yelling. Second of all this HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. Over and over again.

Do you see why i have an issue with yet another thread bringing up the same old thing thats been discussed to death?

Stop. Creating. These. Threads.

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Originally Posted by Huntington

So you want me to bump one of the other threads that's gone on for way too long and has lost purpose of what it was originally talking about? If I want what I'm talking about to get buried in one of those threads, that would be the way to do it.

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Yeah, one of those threads that goes on way too long and goes off from the original topic. Most of those have people saying what you want already. Go find those posts and give them a like instead of making a thread on an already highly discussed topic.

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Originally Posted by Spellbinder

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It's no secret that they'll be looking at adjusting Garuda so that we can use other Egis but you're kidding yourself if you think that people won't just switch to the next strongest Egi after and stick to that.

More interaction is not always a good thing and since you wanted to compare to WoW, let's go ahead and do so. In Cataclysm, Warlocks had a really good interaction with the Felhound due to the pet's main attack doing more damage with the amount of DoTs on the target. Good idea on paper. Want to know how it went for the pet after it was deemed pretty powerful ? (Hint: Not so good)

The thing is that the pet already does a decent chunk of damage and altering the gameplay for the same amount of damage just so that the vocal minority feel better about themselves being summoner is not a thing that should be done if the majority of the people are fine with how it currently is.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

The thing is that the pet already does a decent chunk of damage and altering the gameplay for the same amount of damage just so that the vocal minority feel better about themselves being summoner is not a thing that should be done if the majority of the people are fine with how it currently is.

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Well obviously the developers aren't fine with the way things are, or they wouldn't be taking a second look. Until we see what plans they have, there's no harm in discussing what they may change within reason.

In my personal opinion, if they find a problem with players gravitating to a single Egi, then answer lies in adjusting the gameplay to give players incentive to change periodically.

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Originally Posted by Spellbinder

Well obviously the developers aren't fine with the way things are, or they wouldn't be taking a second look. Until we see what plans they have, there's no harm in discussing what they may change within reason.

In my personal opinion, if they find a problem with players gravitating to a single Egi, then answer lies in adjusting the gameplay to give players incentive to change periodically.

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They're personally not fine with Garuda being the go-to egi in all situations and Tri-Disaster being useless. I'd hardly call that taking a second look at the class. It's called balancing and it's being done in every MMORPG and on nearly all classes throughout the game's life.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

They're personally not fine with Garuda being the go-to egi in all situations and Tri-Disaster being useless. I'd hardly call that taking a second look at the class. It's called balancing and it's being done in every MMORPG and on nearly all classes throughout the game's life.

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We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If they're looking at Summoner's pets and at least one of its five job skills, I call that taking a look at the class. If they weren't taking a look, there wouldn't be any changes coming down the pipes.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Wheter it gets buried or not won't change anything. Summoner will not change as a class, it's just not happening. The sooner people realize that, the sooner this kind of threads can keep popping.

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I'm not allowed to express my thoughts and have fun conversations then? No one is forcing anyone to notice these threads, if you see them and go into them to comment about how you've seen too many of them, I didn't make you click on it. It's easy to just not click on the titles.

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Originally Posted by Huntington

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I'm not allowed to express my thoughts and have fun conversations then? No one is forcing anyone to notice these threads, if you see them and go into them to comment about how you've seen too many of them, I didn't make you click on it. It's easy to just not click on the titles.

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It's even easier to not even create topics that have been debated to oblivion already, especially when there is one that is still going on.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

It's even easier to not even create topics that have been debated to oblivion already, especially when there is one that is still going on.

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Then I as an individual would feel that I was wasting my time to type up something that could potentially not be seen and discussed at all, and I'm not going to take time to type up something for that to happen.

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Originally Posted by Huntington

Then I as an individual would feel that I was wasting my time to type up something that could potentially not be seen and discussed at all, and I'm not going to take time to type up something for that to happen.

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If it's typed in a thread that is active and it's a worthwhile idea, people will discuss it. If it isn't discussed, then it probably wasn't good enough, Not everyone's idea is so special that they should all warrant their own threads, especially about something that has been beaten to dead, resurrected and beaten to dead again.