PVP....Wow...

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Originally Posted by Decrith

5 matches isn't enough to judge PvP, I'd say even 100 matches isn't enough to judge PvP, especially if you're only after the wolf marks for glamours.

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Why would it take over 100 matches to judge how bad pvp is when other mmos you know right away if it's good or not? The fact that less than one percent of the population even pvps and that no one that I know of does it at all should be a good indicator that it's terrible.

PvP in the game IS pretty good. But the main problem is that as a newcomer you have to be farmed in order to get skills that will make you usefull :/

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Originally Posted by Doo

Why would it take over 100 matches to judge how bad pvp is when other mmos you know right away if it's good or not? The fact that less than one percent of the population even pvps and that no one that I know of does it at all should be a good indicator that it's terrible.

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That might simply be down to apathy though. I for one don't care about PvP, so I don't play PvP. I can't speak for how balanced or imbalanced it is simply because I've never once set foot in the arena. I doubt I'm alone either. There's probably others who simply look at PvP with indifference and don't really consider it worth their time.

That so few PvP might not be an indication that it's bad, but just that people don't care. Either way it baffles me that they're releasing Frontlines given how empty PvP seems to be.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

That so few PvP might not be an indication that it's bad, but just that people don't care. Either way it baffles me that they're releasing Frontlines given how empty PvP seems to be.

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Oh I know there're many players that don't care for pvp at all but the players that I know that do enjoy pvp from other mmos are not even doing it at all. You should still see pvp groups setup once in awhile on PF and shouts for a more pvp focus ls/fc once in awhile. On my server at least no one ever mentions pvp at all.

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Originally Posted by Doo

Oh I know there's many players that don't care for pvp at all but the players that I know that do enjoy pvp from other mmos are not even doing it at all. You should still see pvp groups setup once in awhile on PF and shouts for a more pvp focus ls/fc once in awhile.

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I've played dozens of PvP-oriented games, but I think that's really the point. This game isn't very PvP centric. Games like DC Universe Online, World of Warcraft or Perfect World have PvP at their core gameplay. Even Guild Wars 2 has a huge PvP core to its gameplay, despite the central game revolving around PvE.

FFXI was PvE, FFXIV is PvE. It's going to be hard to coax players into it without PvE rewards.

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Originally Posted by MagicJohnson

And what about sprint? Casters can use sprint freely while melee have to spend all of their tp in order to attempt to catch up.

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>.> None of what I said was about running from melee, it was about how they can easily interrupt your casting by simply stepping to the side behind a huge wall, plus theres ways around mages running.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

FFXI was PvE, FFXIV is PvE. It's going to be hard to coax players into it without PvE rewards.

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So like if pvp was good in this game, do you think there would be more buzz around it even though it's just an afterthought?

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

>.> None of what I said was about running from melee, it was about how they can easily interrupt your casting by simply stepping to the side behind a huge wall, plus theres ways around mages running.

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Oh no there isn't, at least not for a tank lol :C. I was doing some PvP today and I simply couldn't touch the healer. He popped his sprint and got so far away that by the time I catched up, he used it again. I know this isn't WoW, but if you're a healer there and a warrior decides to charge you while you're alone... I feel fucking ridiculous running around as a Paladin trying to catch the healer, sprint should be something everyone could use in every situation, or consume all of the casters mana :p.

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Originally Posted by MagicJohnson

He popped his sprint and got so far away that by the time I catched up, he used it again

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Run the opposite direction :P Now before you say, they could too. Someone else in your pt could do the same, cut them off, maybe try stunning as they go by. Then again, with how people in mmos are these days, no one cares about teamwork, only me me me lol

But...Aion was the only PvP that I LIKED >.>