Question for the "its fun" people

people like you will never have fun in any game, sorry.

what i meant by other means of progression would be something like an AA system perhaps

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Originally Posted by Skoltnik

people like you will never have fun in any game, sorry.

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that truly is an ignorant comment ... because i like to progress my main character i wont have any fun in an MMO ... im sure ive been playing them longer then you and yes ive had lots of fun in multiple MMOs ...

Satasha isn't fun though, I regularly run my favourite dungeons, Aurum Vale, Stone Vigil, and Wanderer's Palace.
& running dungeons is not the only thing to do in the game, there's so much more.

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Originally Posted by Skoltnik

people like you will never have fun in any game, sorry.

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Because the "it's fun" people follow them to each game they go 2 to follow the "fotm" media creates

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Originally Posted by rowdey1

ok I believe there needs to be progression and SOMETHING to achieve when you log in to keep people playing and having fun.
I keep seeing these people saying "YOU DONT NEED TO UPGRADE GEAR TO HAVE FUN"

i disagree i think you DO need to progress to have fun and have a reason to log in which is why i think 2.1 will really hurt this game.

I ask you guys this one question how many times a week do you log in and run Sastasha dungeon? because according to your logic you dont need to gain anything to enjoy the content and keep on running it over and over.

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In 2.1 I will have plenty of reasons to do low level dungeons ( Duty Roulette)!

Things that are fun in an MMO:

* Helping lowbies
* Running dungeons/raids with unique party makeups
* Trying new classes
* Finding ways to make money (outsmarting auction houses/finding little known money makers out in the field)
* Exploring
* Now, achievements
* Your own OCD things like completing your Hunting Log, doing every quest, or collecting every collectible
* PVP (soon to come to this game)
* Roleplaying
* Screenshot taking, video making, etc (basically creating your own content out of the game)
* Crowd sourced games (hide and seek, racing, etc.)

This game also has or will have a few unique things:
* Crystal Tower
* Linkshells (for conversations without the strictness of being in a guild)
* Primals (various difficulties)
* The fishing log (added collectibles for us fishers)
* Luminaries
* golden saucer

And anything else that you can think of. I find it fun to find ways to get on top of things that are difficult to get on top of. Have you tried that?

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Originally Posted by rowdey1

ok I believe there needs to be progression and SOMETHING to achieve when you log in to keep people playing and having fun.
I keep seeing these people saying "YOU DONT NEED TO UPGRADE GEAR TO HAVE FUN"

i disagree i think you DO need to progress to have fun and have a reason to log in which is why i think 2.1 will really hurt this game.

I ask you guys this one question how many times a week do you log in and run Sastasha dungeon? because according to your logic you dont need to gain anything to enjoy the content and keep on running it over and over.

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Well, this week i ran it 4 times on my THM. Then i ran it twice for my Archer. Then i ran it a dozen times for my Monk to get the Foestriker kit.

Im perfectly happy with killing Garuda a dozen times for FC mates, i dont even need it. But the fight is fun.

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Originally Posted by rowdey1

your right ... recent mmos have catered to the less hardcore crowd .... and one thing that all have in common is a very short life span

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Not really. I know people like to pretend like there's a rapidly growing MMO graveyard, but very few of the reasonably budgeted themepark MMOs released in the last half decade have actually died. They may have gone F2P, but that isn't the death of a game, even though people with extremely antiquated viewpoints like to think so. For the most part, they're doing fine. You don't need millions of subs to be successful.

Why does it matter to anyone what reasons people play a game? Just play them for your own reasons, and enjoy yourself. Don't waste time trying to focus on others reasons/logic behind a hobby..it just takes the fun out of it.