I love the insane requirements from parties to do end game content..

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Originally Posted by The-Alchemist

You could have full DL gear for Titan HM but they dont want you unless you have been past heart phase of Titan.. Well you can't get past heart phase because its pretty much almost impossible with the DF.

Guilds have retarded requirements too.. FULL DL and Relic.. Great so the stuff you need help to get you have to do through the DF.. I have clawed my way all the way to titan HM with no guild.. Prob could have mad the same progress in a week with a guild or less.

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Very rarely have I ever seen a guild recruitment spam they require any ilvl or experience. In fact, most offer help with progression, and even leveling. Maybe you should try one of them quality guilds over the other few "OMG2ndJOBWORLDFIRSTSNAODKPGOOOOOO!" guilds?

As for the DF, well, theyll be adding ilvl restrictions or something soon so theyll have to shut up or I believe you have full permission to tell them to go F themselves.

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Originally Posted by Dijana

The irony is that in the time they spend looking for people who fill their criteria they probably could've got through 1-2 runs already if they just took anyone.

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You do have a point there.

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Originally Posted by Khalus

If its so bad that players that are further advanced and better geared than you want to do things with similarly geared players for exceptionally fast runs, then by all means add us to your /Blacklist so you don't have to see the requests.

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I can understand this except for only one issue. Its the people in the DF who are requiring these stipulations. I'm sure that what a lot of people mean, just havent said it. If i want to que up in the DF, and I dont have my "best gear" equipped to do Ifrit or Garuda runs because I'm helping my FC members because I am making money bonding gear. If you use DF, you have no right to be choosy with what you want. I Have damage meters running at all times I play. Last night i played Garuda HM, everyone died but me. I got the LB off and managed to win it, yet after it was over, I was cursed out for being the savior and survivor, telling me I have shit gear when the tank was in 45 gear. This community shameful.

Just get a group of people that, like you, are starting.

Even better, get in a non so hardcore guild.

You are trying to join the elitist bunch and are hoping them not to be elitists.

i been saying this since beta once they add gear score its gonna be just like WoW with the crazy as hell requirements to do anything.

The sad thing about this is that Titan is a skill check. You can grind and have gear which helps but in the end it's all about skill. I can't even say how many bad people in relic and DL are floating around.

I actually was shouting on Hyperion for people with No experience and moderate gear to make attempts. Needless to say, we successfully got him to about 10% several times out of the maybe 7-8 runs we did. Didn't really do it for very long.

So the point is, being elitist is a waste and I don't associate with those people. If you are on Hyperion, and want to run Titan, look me up ~

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Originally Posted by WintersMoondancer

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These morons just irritate me to no end. CM can be done easily with AF or less. Sick of people like this.

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I was in a group today of all Relic bards and black mages, with one healer and myself as a relic tank. We were making 23 minute clears of Praetorium, which is darn good time. That means 4 runs in an hour and a half, 8 runs in 3 hours, which is great if you're trying to buy up darklight quickly.

Simply put, you need the gear to put out that kind of raw damage. You also need the knowledge to run the instance "correctly" if you want that kind of time, but the extra damage from 7 relic wielding people shaves off way more time than you might think.

Is it the only way to play? No. Is it time efficient and therefore desirable to some people? Yes. We are not doing it to exclude YOU, we just have specific goals in mind. Get off your high horse :)

There is a very simple solution to this. Shout your own requirements and build the groups however you want.

People are free to build out their groups any way they want. If I want to make a group of fully geared people with Relic +1s to do 5 minute Garuda farms then what does it really matter to you? Go find 7 other people that don't fit the requirements and run whatever you want however you want.

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Originally Posted by Ultimaetus

I like the full DL healers in Titan HM who can't proactively cast any heals. They always wait till the tumults or rock/mountain busters actually go off before begging casts. If you had the time to farm that gear, could you take the time to L2P? You are getting outplayed by an AF1 healer for gods sake.

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A clear example of the Lalafell master race. Keep on being awesome.

While I myself wouldn't ever contemplate only shouting for full DL relic dps or whatever for CM or AK... at the end of the day, aren't people entitled to do what they want? IF they want to spend their time, which could be spent running the dungeon, shouting for this perfect group, they're quite entitled too. Just as you can start shouting to build your own group, with your own requirements, instead of worrying about other peoples groups. Their groups aren't the be-all and end-all of everything!
Personally I couldn't care less for CM as long as you're not being retarded (and have at least made some effort with gear). AK I go with rl friends. Had some good and some bad experiences with duty finder in there, when my frineds haven't been available or just haven't been arsed to go. Titan - after however many wipes I can understand people at least setting a bar for that one.