Reposting this from the Duty Finder vent thread, because this probably also counts as a healing horror story. >.>
Expert roulette. Pharos Sirius (Hard). BLM/NIN/PLD, and I was healing on my AST. The PLD was pretty survivable and the DPS pretty decent, so I was pretty comfortable with throwing up a few HoTs on the tank and helping with the DPS to make the run go faster.
First boss, since I'm free to DPS, I also, naturally, help the DPS with the adds. What happens? I'm not "helping": I am the ONLY ONE killing the adds. The DPS are just burning down the boss, and the adds are stacking up while I'm trying desperately to kill them, keep the tank alive, and keep myself alive. Near the end of the fight I have FIVE adds on me and if I don't focus-heal myself my HP will drop in a near instant. Luckily, the DPS downed the boss before I could run out of MP, and I didn't get interrupted hardly at all while casting my heals on myself. ._.;
Second boss, surprise surprise, I'm the only one handling the slimes. To start out it's not a huge issue, but once the boss starts doing his corkscrew thingy and people start getting hit by it, it becomes a bit overwhelming. Becomes even more overwhelming when the NIN, who I told THREE TIMES to kill the slime he had over the vent I was STANDING ON, veeeery slowly kills the slime by the wall NEXT TO (but obviously far enough away to NOT HIT THE VENT) THE DAMN VENT. Of course, that caused even more slimes to spawn. I believe I had like three of them on me at one point.
So to recap: I had to heal the tank (thank GOD they were survivable so I didn't have to direct heal as much), heal the DPS, kill AND TANK the adds, and cling to dear life myself. And SOMEHOW, I managed to squeeze a few dots and Malefic IIs in on the bosses. Sweet baby Jesus, they were lucky I'm a geared healer. -.- After that second boss I decided to say something, so that hopefully they don't torment any other healers in the future who might be much less geared than I am. WORD FOR WORD, I said: "Just a heads up, the healer shouldn't be the only one killing adds..." Then the BLM, who doesn't DPS for nearly the entire trash pull following my saying that, comes out with this paragraph: "I helped you with the first couple, then you looked like you had it so I decided that more DPS on the boss was better. Quit being an asshole."
"Quit being an asshole."
"Quit being an asshole."
"Quit being an asshole."
I DIIIIIIIIED. XDDDD First of all, she really didn't help me with the adds: if she did, it wasn't noticeable at all. Not once. I know for a FACT no one killed adds on the first boss, and I was the only one to get the tethers on the second (not to mention the couple times where I had to directly heal the tank and an add was up, no one took it until I stabilized the tank's HP and got it myself). Second of all, all I did was nicely tell the DPS they need to be more on-the-ball with killing adds and not force the healer to perform THREE ROLES AT ONCE, because our jobs are hard enough, and that makes me an asshole... This is a HUGE problem I've run into in this game with giving ANY advice or criticism to help people improve, no matter how nice/sugar-coated it is, so I simply responded with "Lol? Politely asking that you kill adds makes me an asshole? Damn, people in this game need to grow some thicker skin. ._. " She said it sounded like I was "rude" and "condescending" with my saying "just a heads up", and that at 60 and Expert roulette level they would just OBVIOUSLY know that that's what they need to do (SO NOT TRUE btw, any healer or tank would know that pain, QQ). Last thing I said was "Don't worry, you'll know when I'm being rude/condescending/an asshole. <3" And you will, because I can be a royal bitch at times: I'll admit it. >>
Luckily the DPS did what they should have been doing all along on the last boss, save for the second set of grey bombs and remedy bombs, where the NIN failed to knock back the remedy bomb on the second grey bomb and it exploded. .-. Kinda figured with this group that that might happen on this boss, so I precasted and AoE heal, and we finished the fight without incident.
But... SERIOUSLY! >< Why do people get so damn offended if you offer advice or ask that someone helps you out a bit and makes your job a little easier? I'm never mean when I do it. ._. If I said something like "For the love of GOD, help me kill adds," or "Do your jobs, you idiots", then yeah, THAT is being rude (unless the former is said after numerous times of trying to nicely get the DPS to do what they're supposed to).
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01-07-2016, 11:13 AMMiyha
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01-07-2016, 11:39 AMMorningstar1337Advice = criticism. and they think they are above criticism, pretty simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miyha
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01-07-2016, 09:38 PMraela
Er.. as a healer, I always go for the bombs in Pharos. It lets the DPS go all out to get the grey bombs dead quickly, and there's not much healing to be done in those phases anyway???
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01-08-2016, 01:17 AMdeos
here comes a horror story of a healer, coming from a WHM main playing as PLD that day
alright, got in the aery a few days ago with a WHM as healer. halfway in the first pull i already used almost all my defensive CDs and still never get above 30% HP since the WHM dps'ed almost all the time. great. meh i didnt die so lets continue, maybe he/she will adjust. the next pulls and the first boss, the pattern repeated. all my defensive cooldowns were on CD all the time, including hallowed ground, just so i barely didnt die from trash (and a boss that does almost no dmg), all while keeping hate and trying to deal some dmg (as good as PLD can...). after the first boss i dare to ask the healer to please concentrate a bit more on healing, and get flames as reponse of course. well, a few pulls later with this continuing i said to myself "lets pull two groups at once, maybe the healer gets it"... nope we wiped, and i choosed to use my once-a-month-NOPE out of there and left
serious, i love to dmg on WHM, but letting the tank stay below 50% ALL THE TIME is just horrible. and nope it was not a new player, he/she had several 60s -
01-08-2016, 05:01 AMElizasylen
The worst of mine was kicked for doing DPS as a healer, The Tank complained that he was in a perpectual state of less than 75% HP, and kicked me for not keeping him topped off
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01-08-2016, 09:33 AMLilypoo
I've had similar experiences in Sirius HM. I'm sorry but DPS should be able to take care of a few adds quickly then jump to the boss. That's not saying healers can't help, but like Miyha said, our jobs are already hard enough without having to throw in other roles as well. I'm happy to help with adds when I know the tank/party is alright. And yes, people just can't handle advice. I've given healers advice before that I notice are doing alright in lower level things (such as Garuda EX) but may be doing things that they will learn won't fly in higher content. I got a reply from a healer that would literally medica anytime ONE person lost a little bit of health. They said "I got this but thanks." I merely told them that using medica 2 and cure should be enough to heal the party at least in the beginning phases. Though to be fair, it was DF Garuda EX so... yeah. lol I've been through the early stages of healing and I get it can be frustrating having a higher level/geared person telling you you're doing your job wrong (or at least that's what it sounds like to the new healers) but come on. It's advice, we're trying to help cause we know, we been there, we done that.
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01-09-2016, 04:01 AMNoxiferI know D:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
It's the same when non-tanks accidentally grab aggro on a mob... Some are good and run TO the tank and/or switch to a different mob so she can get it back. But then you get the ones who go "OMGGETITOFFMEAAAAAAH!" and run the other way in their attempt to escape the damage. While continuing to attack said mob or spamming heals on themselves. -_-
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Originally Posted by Ironos
Well... My first thought was that both those sounds like people who primarily levelled the other ACN job and just went as the other to be able to Need on gear upgrades for their "free" job. But... While that makes sense with Darkmoon's example, it doesn't quite so much with Ironos', since Aetherflow is not unique to SCH ^^; (Unless they never really played as scholar at all outside of unlocking it and somehow thought that Bane was SMN-specific? O.o or that Aetherflow itself was SMN-specific? Nah, I'm stumped.)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael
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01-09-2016, 04:20 AMFunkyBunchThe healer or tank should be bashing the remedy bombs and letting the DPS burst down the grey bombs. As a BLM It's hard to do both fast enough if I don't have the 30 second Enochian up..Quote:
Originally Posted by Miyha
I also don't normally hit the Slimes because they die before I can get a cast off and it's a waste of MP or F4. I take out the generators, then adds, then boss. -
01-09-2016, 06:56 AMMorningstar1337
Neverreap: Duty Roulette. WHM. And ...actually not appropriate for this thread...until Wakkeon. This oversized Sanuwa and its adds were sapping my MP dry and I had a burgeoning dread that I would be running on Fumes (read: Cure 1) by the end. The run in general took longer than usual with Canu Vanu and his damn totems, but my MP wasn't crying as hard as it did at the end of the dungeon
On a side note. I know how to alternate Assize and Shroud, something I did to great effect in trying to keep MP high -
01-09-2016, 07:16 AMFevelleSometimes the evil spirit of MP Drain possess my little lalafell body too. Mainly on DF A2. I don't know why, while on some runs I end up the fight with 50% MP and Shroud out of CD (even though I DPSed a lot with Holy and Aero 3), sometimes I lose so much MP that I have to wait to cast a Cure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morningstar1337