Gender locked race?

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

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HMmMmmmMm:
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Keep in mind what manages that part of the wording could be a seperate system (that is properly checking gender of your actual character and doesn't check for "viera can't do that sir, pull back"). Hopefully it's not though and everything is true (other race too) and everyone in the thread starts singing together holding hands lol. :)

But today is a lot of HMhmmMmMMMmMm

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

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What's a Hrothgar?

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

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j i n k i e s

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Originally Posted by Shougun

HMmMmmmMm:
https://i.imgur.com/EGQO1H8.png

Keep in mind what manages that part of the wording could be a seperate system (that is properly checking gender of your actual character and doesn't check for "viera can't do that sir, pull back").

But today is a lot of HMhmmMmMMMmMm

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If I'm not mistaken, for females in French the words end with an extra E? Maybe I'm thinking of something else but regardless this pretty much tells us that Viera aren't the only new race to be added. Since this is a glitch but we don't know what level this error occurred at, I agree that it's still not definite proof that both genders are available.

Though, if a race only has one gender, why would anyone bother going into the code and writing a version for males and females? Not sure if that's how it really works but who knows...

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

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Both Reddit users who have posted this haven't used their account in over a year. I'm starting to think this is just an elaborate ruse.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Keep in mind what manages that part of the wording could be a seperate system (that is properly checking gender of your actual character and doesn't check for "viera can't do that sir, pull back"). Hopefully it's not though and everything is true (other race too) and everyone in the thread starts singing together holding hands lol. :)

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Gonna sue you for copyright infringement 'cause those are my thoughts exactly.
The broken code just screams "replace all" functions before actual localization.
But I do hope it means we're getting both sexes. Boy golly do I hope.

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Originally Posted by Corue

Both Reddit users who have posted this haven't used their account in over a year. I'm starting to think this is just an elaborate ruse.

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Or this, it could be entirely this.
Regardless, my hopes are still on the floor atm.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

What's a Hrothgar?

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A mountain in skyrim.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

What's a KEEP IT SECRET KEEP IT SAFE?

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Name has been used in Beowolf for a Danish king, used in Skyrim for a very cold city, and varitions used in games for things like ice giants. Also I feel the ice planet from Star Wars would relate back to that sort of spelling/sound.

Going off other information we have, a lion like race. . . . from a cold region. . .

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Originally Posted by Roda

Gonna sue you for copyright infringement 'cause those are my thoughts exactly.

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I will pay you out in chocobo feed. :)

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Originally Posted by Roda

A mountain in skyrim.

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So why is it listed as 'le gentil Hrothgar' along with the other races?

Apparently it's also a character in Beowulf.
Sounds kinda beastlike to me, could even be... lion-like.

Im currently talking to every NPC just to see if there is the glitch in my game lmao
At the moment it's 0. How sad (but now that I think of it, it's very rare when my race is mentioned, maybe I should try job quest ?)
Do you know any point in the story that I could see in the inn where races are mentioned ?

Reddit update on that code. Well...well then. Don't want to get my hopes up that they had the capability of making two races that aren't gender locked.

xD Shougun, it's not Ronso! You're just going to get some sort of mountain lion. Otherwise, they'd have popped up as the French term for Ronso; which is what? Isn't it still Ronso?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

'le gentil '

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I don't "know" french, but that's used to show gender of something. So you can tell if it's male or female, and it appears we have both male and female connections for this new info and for Viera.

Although just be careful because they may be using some other script for male/female details, such that it works on a separate system - Roda is already trying to sue me for all my chocobo feed, don't encourage them ;).

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

xD Shougun, it's not Ronso! You're just going to get some sort of mountain lion.

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I WILL BELIEVEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU WATCH!!!!!

(lol, I still figure they wont literally be Ronso (if even real).. but man are we getting into some strong references :P).

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

If I'm not mistaken, for females in French the words end with an extra E? Maybe I'm thinking of something else but regardless this pretty much tells us that Viera aren't the only new race to be added. Since this is a glitch but we don't know what level this error occurred at, I agree that it's still not definite proof that both genders are available.

Though, if a race only has one gender, why would anyone bother going into the code and writing a version for males and females? Not sure if that's how it really works but who knows...

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The female word for gentil in french is "gentille"

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Originally Posted by Kupocoubo

Im currently talking to every NPC just to see if there is the glitch in my game lmao
At the moment it's 0. How sad (but now that I think of it, it's very rare when my race is mentioned, maybe I should try job quest ?)
Do you know any point in the story that I could see in the inn where races are mentioned ?

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It seems to be hitting checks on race. Try the tarot card readers for Valentione's day.

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Originally Posted by Kupocoubo

Okay so it's from Rowena in the french version, I will see if she said that to my male character !

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Note that the player got this dialogue from Rowena during the MSQ (Mask of Grief) and the NPC who unlocks Steps of Faith.

In English, Rowena and Marcelain call you an adventurer.

Icarus Twine on the subreddit's discord has proven this to be true (through datamining of the French version), for anyone doubting. The code for Hrothgar is there, as well as Viera, and a la and le variant for each.

I guess the egg's on my face now.

The entire French team is getting fired, aren't they?

This thread keeps giving:
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Hope the offices are doing okay. Can't speak for a master plan of PR/media management but it's been fun down here discussing theories and possibilities with what we have, hasn't pushed me away from wanting shadowbringers (just curious to play with the puzzle pieces).

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Originally Posted by Corue

I guess the egg's on my face now.

The entire French team is getting fired, aren't they?

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Probably just one dude, and he's probably passed out on the ground from a panic attack right now.

I wouldn't put too much weight on the gender thing. They may just have put it in to cover all their bases. Considering it will never trigger if they only add one gender anyway, it ultimately makes no difference.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Probably just one dude, and he's probably passed out on the ground from a panic attack right now.

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We shall send them a hug ;), or whatever affection they prefer.. lol

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I wouldn't put too much weight on the gender thing. They may just have put it in to cover all their bases. Considering it will never trigger if they only add one gender anyway, it ultimately makes no difference.

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While I agree with you, I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. And also very confused because of the "last race we'll be adding" statement (along the lines of, at least).

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Originally Posted by Shougun

This thread keeps giving:
https://leviathyn.com/wp-content/upl...2/windmill.gif

Hope the offices are doing okay. Can't speak for a master plan of PR/media management but it's been fun down here discussing theories and possibilities with what we have, hasn't pushed me away from wanting shadowbringers (just curious to play with the puzzle pieces).

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Can't feel bad for 'em. This is exactly what happens when you play coy with what people are spending their money on! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

While I agree with you, I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. And also very confused because of the "last race we'll be adding" statement (along the lines of, at least).

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I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love for both options, but I think given the nature of what this is, adding both options in to avoid any future rework (if it were ever required) makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love for both options, but I think given the nature of what this is, adding both options in to avoid any future rework (if it were ever required) makes sense.

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The only thing I think they added was the race names. The male/female possibilities was probably already there
[Possible gender] [possible race] instead of [possible gender x race option]

It means the leak was real, we will get Vieras and a Lion race. The leak never talked about those races being gender locked.

I AM SHOOKETH

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Originally Posted by CoolDad

I'm concerned they might add two new races (viera and a more "masculine" race) and genderlock them both to female and male respectively. It would save them on modelling but man I really want to play a male viera. :/

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Originally Posted by Kupocoubo

It means the leak was real, we will get Vieras and a Lion race. The leak never talked about those races being gender locked.

I AM SHOOKETH

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Calm your kitties!
Non-released beta text!
It could be ANYWHERE in the process of polished.
It's not confirmed until we get the word of god! X_X

So we know that Tokyo Fanfest is late March. We also know that part 2 of the 4.5 MSQ is in late March (right?). Assuming the Hrothgar are the eighth race, do you think they'll make an appearance in part 2 of the MSQ? Possibly at the very end of it?

While we had seen what Au Ra looked like long before 2.55, Yugiri didn't reveal her face until the very end of the 2.55 story.

I would love for both to have both genders, and I really hope the labeling is an indication of that. But that would mean two full races male and female and that's a ton of work. I'd love if SE did this, but also knowing them it might not be likely. It also still doesn't add up with the weird way Yoshida has been dodging the issue of male viera either. There's less of a reason to not show them if there's going to be 2 full blown male+female races.

We will see. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing these Hrothgar however.

Just as a heads-up: from the top comment on the Reddit thread, datamining confirms that the text exists, but it's only in the French localization files (not English, German, or Japanese) and has been there for some time. It may have been added at a much earlier point, and development could have shifted radically in the meantime. Take it all with a healthy dose of salt (however you want to interpret that).

Gender locking a race is outdated practice. The fact that there's rumors and that SE is considering it shows how out of touch the team is.
Or must I point towards the Bunny suit fiasco?
I know I will not keep my mouth shut about wanting them, been waiting since Tactics Advance.

Welp, if this is true and what was found is correct and the code that puts in the specific pronouns is to be trusted and isn't full of redundancies.

Blufever was correct? He never did mention genderlocks, was this what he was seeing?

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Welp, if this is true and what was found is correct and the code that puts in the specific pronouns is to be trusted and isn't full of redundancies.

Blufever was correct? He never did mention genderlocks, was this what he was seeing?

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Yeah, Bluefever never mentioned gender locking (although a discord "leaker" says they were).
The genderlocking comes down to what is more likely:

1: SE Genderlocks Viera and Hrothgar, one gender for each
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2: SE makes two full blown races with all the development time and resources that takes.

The optimist in me hopes for option 2, but the realist in me says it's option 1 when looking at other surrounding evidence (again, his old comment, and peculiarity regarding talking about male viera + in game lore). I would love to be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

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Yeah, as much as I'd hate for it to be the case, option 1 seems to be more likely considering what Yoshi's said about how hard developing races is and whatnot. However, it could be that since we didn't get a new race for Stormblood, maybe they've been working on them since then in an effort to release 2 fullblown races for ShB. But I feel like that's a reach, sadly.

This is so exciting!! I’d love to see two fully-fledged races, that would totally blow our expectations, please let it be true!!

Having both would be a dream so please don't wake me up XD

Hey guys, what about the possibility that they add female Viera and male Hrothgar first, with plans to add their opposite sex counterparts later depending on player requests? Say, if they get a high demand right away, they'll move development to release them within 5.x, else, in 6.0 instead. Edited: this would stay true that these will be their last races to add in the game. Adding the opposite sex doesn't count as adding a new race.

I'd rather them finish the races they started like when they fixed the errors made with the 1.0 races.

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Originally Posted by Roda

I'd rather them finish the races they started like when they fixed the errors made with the 1.0 races.

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I agree! But devs have said working on a race is a lot of work, and considering they often reuse animations, gear and monster reskins etc. I'm just saying that adding two full races seems like a lot of work.

One other possibility is that they already had work done for Viera in the beginning of SB or late HW, giving them time to implement another new race.

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Originally Posted by stopatfiveorsixstores

Hey guys, what about the possibility that they add female Viera and male Hrothgar first, with plans to add their opposite sex counterparts later depending on player requests? Say, if they get a high demand right away, they'll move development to release them within 5.x, else, in 6.0 instead. Edited: this would stay true that these will be their last races to add in the game. Adding the opposite sex doesn't count as adding a new race.

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I'd rather they just add them immediately instead of trying to sell a half finished product. Limited jobs are bad enough, so let's not graduate to limited races.