Is it necessary to advertise "LGBTQ+ friendly"

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Originally Posted by Amorzinho

I reported a few, since some was through Discord only, nothing happened, couldn't offer a screenshot and video with audiotracks since the GM never contacted me. And one i reported with their chat in game, to this day i see the person there just fine on the same place as always doing the same thing

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I would imagine you need to send it via the special task force team for stuff like that. A GM simply can't go to discord or anything. Each time you file a report, you usually get a link to said special task force.

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Originally Posted by Veranolth

No amount of justifying why it is necessary to advertise as LGBTQ+ friendly will work as it is lost on so many people in the thread. The fact alone that the tags are basically anti-LGBTQ such as "stop lgbtq", "muh pronouns", and "triggered" means that people are just going to keep trolling as they have. FCs will advertise as LGBTQ+ as much as they want, and this thread kind of proved why it is necessary.

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Thing is...EVERYONE gets trolled dude. I've seen folks get ripped to shreds because they asked for more black npcs n important characters in xiv. People will be people and safespaces do nothing but keep folks away from that reality. I'll say it again, advertise it to your heart's content, just understand some folks (including lgbt people) won't mess with those groups

It's really not that deep folks.

If folks want an LGBTQ+ friendly space to go to, then go for it. If it's not your thing, don't join.
Yeah sure, whatever, everyone gets trolled, sure, but I have never seen so many people get so bent over LGBTQ+ spaces being a thing as I have in these forums; like why does it matter? Why is this thread even a thing? Why is this being questioned?
I agree with Veranolth; seeing the tags tagged to this thread kinda shows why they're a thing. Being a part of the LGBTQ+, I can see why it is a thing.

There's no need for deep thinking over the matter. You join/attend those things or not. Wow so simple.
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There's a BIG difference between being "tolerance" and "acceptance". Saying LGBTQIA+ shows you're a safe zone, an "ally" if you will.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

Is it necessary to advertise "LGBTQ+ friendly"

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Is it necessary to make yet another thread that bashes my community? The only place being Trans and Bi that is unsafe in this game, are the English language Forums.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

So...are you saying SE shouldn't Punish people if they mistreat, or Bash anybody based on race/nationality/thinking/gender/sexual orientation/gender identity?

Im kind of lost and confused what the point or argument of this Thread is...maybe Im just dumb.

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It's a conservative tactic to bash the LGBTQAI+, when they are not allowed to be openly hateful, they make threads like this to make passive aggressive anti-LGBTQAI+ threads, and try and talk in circles as to why we don't need a safe place.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

It's a conservative tactic to bash the LGBTQAI+, when they are not allowed to be openly hateful, they make threads like this to make passive aggressive anti-LGBTQAI+ threads, and try and talk in circles as to why we don't need a safe place.

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Interestingly enough I've yet to see any one be hateful in this thread nor passive aggressive. If stuff like what I've said here is what you consider talking in circles that only proves what I'm saying

Also please don't start with the "conservative/right wing" crap...

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

It's a conservative tactic to bash the LGBTQAI+, when they are not allowed to be openly hateful, they make threads like this to make passive aggressive anti-LGBTQAI+ threads, and try and talk in circles as to why we don't need a safe place.

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Agreed. I'm tired of these threads popping up. Square Enix moderators would do well to watch closely. We have never been under more attack for our rights. All equal rights in America are at stake, and I really hope that reflects how the moderation is done here. We need safe spaces to run away to without being called out, or bullied for things we cannot help but be.

There's nothing wrong with expressing yourself as LGBT+ in a video game, especially when your real life is scary. You should be able to be as LGBT+ and proud as you want in any virtual space without people giving you crap for it.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Interestingly enough I've yet to see any one be hateful in this thread nor passive aggressive. If stuff like what I've said here is what you consider talking in circles that only proves what I'm saying

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That's kind of the point of plausible deniability / bad faith arguments. People misrepresent their own beliefs and occupy false positions on issues that they believe will achieve an outcome suitable to what they actually believe.

If you notice, OP tried to take a stance claiming that LGBTQ+ friendly is simply redundant because the game does such a good job moderating issues relating to harassment. Of course, this has nothing to do with what OP actually believes. Go ahead and mouse over the tags at the bottom of the page, which seemingly unbeknownst to many, will show you the username of who posted them.

Edit: Gee, I can't believe OP changed the tags on the thread after seeing this post.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

That's kind of the point of plausible deniability / bad faith arguments. People misrepresent their own beliefs and occupy false positions on issues that they believe will achieve an outcome suitable to what they actually believe.

If you notice, OP tried to take a stance claiming that LGBTQ+ friendly is simply redundant because the game does such a good job moderating issues relating to harassment. Of course, this has nothing to do with what OP actually believes. Go ahead and mouse over the tags at the bottom of the page, which seemingly unbeknownst to many, will show you the username of who posted them.

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This.