[ Dev's ] Gear Swaps Can I have It?

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Originally Posted by _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_

I hope they add macros to real life.

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If I could macro getting dressed in the morning...well now that'd be something!

The whole concept of changing your clothing mid-battle is ridiculous though. Even in other games it's completely out of the question.

If I'm fighting a Rathalos in Monster Hunter I can't just say "Hold on, I need to switch to my status effect + gear to use these throwing knives, then back to my element attack + gear to start fighting you with my sword again!" I plan ahead and use what I think is best for that fight. You can't do everything, go with what you think is most effective.

Even still as far as MMOs as a whole go you don't see other games allowing you to switch gear mid-battle outside of FFXI. Most suffer from the "1 optimal set" problem but that has nothing to do with switching mid-battle.

Allowing people to switch mid-battle and operate all roles in a single battle goes back to the argument that all classes feel the same and even within the same class the roles are barely diversified. If you have to plan out your gear beforehand with no mid-battle swaps then at least you may have different people playing different roles. Isn't that what everyone wanted? More class/role diversification and not allowing everyone to do everything?

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Originally Posted by _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_

I hope they add macros to real life.

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The developers had their funding revoked after trying to test "/display head" and decapitating some test subjects.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

The developers had their funding revoked after trying to test "/display head" and decapitating some test subjects.

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Win!

/10chars

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Originally Posted by Cichy

What you want is the FFXI endgame pre abyssea which was arguably the worst MMO endgame around.
You do realize that FFXI endgame excluded like 90% of the server population dont you?
Sure it was fun when you had an endgame linkshell but if you were on the other side of the fence you got completely screwed. All most people had to do for 6 years was limbus, dynamis, exp. Not to mention how HNM system for the longest time had nothing to do with skill but bots. This is why WOW has more players, content is about including everyone not about excluding people like FFXI was. That is why endgame player playtimes in XI were 6 years vs normal player few months.
Not to even mention that MMO players have tons of MMOs to chose from and they not going to stick around hoping to get in a endgame shell and than be in that shell for 6 months and than hope for an item to drop like e body that maybe dropped once a week under right conditions (no server maintenance etc etc).

Yes they should release content all the time that will get you gear that will outdate old gear. It's the only way to progress.
The trick is to make the content relevant and fun. It should be about journey to the level cap and content along the way that makes you improve. Not grind to the cap and than fighting it out for a piece of gear that you hope wont be outdated for 6 years and drops of 1 mob that 800 people camp.

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If you belive this cichy you never played FFXI.

about 10% of the game required a Hardcore group. That was the World HNMS. To an extent Sea and Sky when they where heavily camped nms.

WoE (8 zones), Assualt (100 of them), Salvage (4 zones with 3 paths each), Dynamis (9 zones), Einherjar (10 zones), Limbus (12 zones), Znms (3 paths with 3 tiers in each ending with a main boss), The many mini games(choco racing, pet fights, ballista, brener), Campaign (defense battles and quest related around 100), Besighed (1 thing here), Bcnms(around 60), KSnms(around 30), Isnms(About 20), Enms (around 30), Vnms(Around 20, tiered as well), Missions(around 100) all of these where without the competition and all of these except city and northland dynamis where casual in time requirement.

I am sorry but atm there is no MMO out there that has the variety that XI had, too many people focus on the smallest part of XIs endgame which was crazy hardcore.

WoW has one of the worst endgames out there, it is just the fact so few people realize it because that is what they where first exposed to and every mmo after WoW has copied it.

WoW's endgame is a few raids, a few dungeons, and PvP.

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Originally Posted by Naylia

Swapping gear during battle isn't thrilling....it's ridiculous. I go back to my original post.

Go get in a bar fight and try changing your pants in the middle of it....let me know how that works out for you.

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If I wanted a game based on RL I'd play Sims lol... dont come with poor arguments please... I'm very open to discussion, really, that's what this forums are for, discussing and come with good ideas for devs. Please don't come arguing with no sense answers ^^

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Originally Posted by Lionheart

If I wanted a game based on RL I'd play Sims lol... dont come with poor arguments please... I'm very open to discussion, really, that's what this forums are for, discussing and come with good ideas for devs. Please don't come arguing with no sense answers ^^

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Pot, meet kettle.

while I'm against FFXI-like gear swapping during fight, would be nice for long fights to be able to change 1 (one) piece of equipment every x minutes (like 3 or 5). Just to add a lil versatility without the FFXI-like chaos

of course this would exclude equipping a weapon of a different class (aka, switching class)

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Originally Posted by Lionheart

If I wanted a game based on RL I'd play Sims lol... dont come with poor arguments please... I'm very open to discussion, really, that's what this forums are for, discussing and come with good ideas for devs. Please don't come arguing with no sense answers ^^

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Your entire argument was that it was "thrilling"...that is an opinion/emotion that you have. I won't state my opinion/emotion because it's not suitable for young ears. No different from your argument. Just the opposite one. Gear swapping is NOT thrilling.

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Originally Posted by Moiren

while I'm against FFXI-like gear swapping during fight, would be nice for long fights to be able to change 1 (one) piece of equipment every x minutes (like 3 or 5). Just to add a lil versatility without the FFXI-like chaos

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you can, you just suffer a uncomfortable debuff for awhile. essentially they just didnt want it to be on the level of ffxi 1 second macro gear swaps. you can change your strategies, actions and gear in a fight, but you will have to put away your weapon, and suffer some debuff time.