Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by fulminating

edit: it's also really weird we never got to ask about the circumstances of zarlal ja's birth; we've seen plenty of blue hobos before both just before amon in circus tower and in eureka orthos around the 61-70 set. Is he an allagan chimera with the associated mental instabilities? Is it a convergent creation? Surely it's pretty reckless to not mention it to at least gajool jaja.

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Originally Posted by BabySneed

I think the writers just forgot that blue hoobigos existed in the game before Dawntrail and that there are others besides Zoraal Ja and thus never addressed it

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Oh, those weren't Blue Hoobigos though. Those were Blue Ogiboohs. TOTALLY different from the hoobigos we know and it's a common mistake to make. Yoshi-P told me this info himself through AOL's AIM service so it's true.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDuck

When I do drag my alt through this Mary Sue fanfic slogfest this will be what echoes in her head whenever the little spoiled mary sue princess shows up. Where I'm at on my main I been feeling this for a long time... (I'm Arby and my bf is Chief)

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I've dragged two alts through the MSQ with full-on skips, and it was still a slog. I have three more to go. I wish we had a Story Skip for Dawntrail.

Yes, I wouldn't say I like the MSQ that much. I would much rather play through all of a Realm Reborn again.

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Originally Posted by EchoingPulse

I've dragged two alts through the MSQ with full-on skips, and it was still a slog. I have three more to go. I wish we had a Story Skip for Dawntrail.

Yes, I wouldn't say I like the MSQ that much. I would much rather play through all of a Realm Reborn again.

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tbh this is exactly what i did. I started a new gladiator in ul'dah and just did the quest where you meet Thancred for the first time where you protect Nanamo from a voidsent and make contact with Hydaelyn an I am infinitely more thrilled and invested than I have been in years.

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Originally Posted by sharplysurreal

tbh this is exactly what i did. I started a new gladiator in ul'dah and just did the quest where you meet Thancred for the first time where you protect Nanamo from a voidsent and make contact with Hydaelyn an I am infinitely more thrilled and invested than I have been in years.

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What digs at me with Dawntrail are the FORCED sections where you CANNOT SKIP and have to ESCORT NPCs to X place. Like WHY!? WHY!?. This always ensures the maximum amount of time is taken no matter how fast you Skip and Click.

I'm pretty sure that the Japanese writers are super confused about all this because there are weird nuances about the US that are difficult to understand if you aren't us. When someone in America claims to be "receiving death threats", we all understand that to be a performative thing designed to gain status. It can be good for ones career etc, to make such claims, and it's a competitive market. We kind of take it as read that this isn't a thing that's actually happening. However, worry not, if it *were* actually happening, doing this is illegal. So, the police would actually arrest the person who did it. There are no arrests, because, um, it doesn't actually happen. We in America understand that virtually everything is fake. So, when someone says basically anything, the default internal response if that the person is fabricating whatever they are saying.

Regards, Dawntrail's story, I honestly don't have strong feelings about it either way. There were some cute moments. It was ok.

If I had any complaint about voice acting, it's this...

Some games which have way lower budgets and players and prestige than FF14 do full voice acting. The newer Persona games are fully voice acted, and those things are hundreds of hours long. And, they aren't MMOs! So, I think that SE should fully voice act the story. As it stands, I have to read out all the text parts to my wife because she refuses to read it all. We're paying a sub. I think we deserve full voice acting. I doubt voice actors are that expensive. There are tons of people that I know personally that would and could do voice acting for FF14 and would do it for a song. I bet there are literally millions of such people. So, the fact that it isn't happening just feels very, very low effort. Getting someone to read the dialogue isn't that tough. So, it just feels insulting that it isn't done...as though SE doesn't care enough about their own story to do this very, very quick and easy thing. And, instead, I have to read these lines out to my wife personally! :D

Such a shame to see Yoshi still not address the criticisms and still go farther and say he can't tell what's hateful speech and what is feedback.

Pretty sure the 100s and 100s of posts that don't mention the VA in a derogative way, but instead regard the incredibly massive plot holes and absolutely horrible character that is Wuk Lamat (despite who voice acts the character in multiple languages) are very obviously feedback. Also, considering it isn't just the English forums that have given very valid criticisms regarding how badly Wuk's character is written pretty much proves this has nothing to do with the VA and has everything to do with the writing.

What a shame, Yoshi.

To the devs, you all really need to go back to the 1.x days and rewatch those arrogant interviews of "Why do you need a jump button?" or how the forums were shutdown b/c of how loud our criticisms were - and we were RIGHT. You all really need a reality check. You're not to big to fail, and this expansion so far has been that. You need to read and receive criticisms instead of trying to hide behind "I can't tell which is actual feedback or not." We supported your game. We believed in your vision.

Well, I'm getting off that train. Fix it, please, and stop coming out in these interviews with these ridiculous comments about not being able to tell which is feedback. Not only is it dismissing such a portion of your fanbase that actually cares enough to come on here and take their time to post concerns in a very concise and intelligible way, but it is insulting those of us that are invested in your success so much that we've come here to sound the alarm. Don't turn on your fans please, it hasn't gone well for any franchise so far that has done this, nor did it go well with FFXIV 1.0. We've supported you, you need to support us - not dismiss us.

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Originally Posted by apophis13

I'm pretty sure that the Japanese writers are super confused about all this because there are weird nuances about the US that are difficult to understand if you aren't us. When someone in America claims to be "receiving death threats", we all understand that to be a performative thing designed to gain status. It can be good for ones career etc, to make such claims, and it's a competitive market. We kind of take it as read that this isn't a thing that's actually happening. However, worry not, if it *were* actually happening, doing this is illegal. So, the police would actually arrest the person who did it. There are no arrests, because, um, it doesn't actually happen. We in America understand that virtually everything is fake. So, when someone says basically anything, the default internal response if that the person is fabricating whatever they are saying.

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There are literally X/Twitter hashtags for people arguing she deserves to die. We also know that police often don't act on death threats unless there is substantial reason to believe that they are coming from someone who is going to follow through, because so many online death threats are made every day on the internet, trying to even track all the people doing it is too much work.

There is indeed something culturally peculiar about the US, but it is not that we should assume the recipients of death threats are making them up, it is that many Americans do not think threatening to kill someone is all that serious a thing to say, so especially in online spaces death threats are made quite lightly by people who have no actual intention to follow through, as though they are just throwing an insult.

Just going to throw my 2 gil in the pile and say that the best thing the team can do regarding Wuk Lamat is give us a small break from her during the post expansion content, and let us wander around for ourselves with just some local guides to point us in various directions for interesting things, you know.. like an exploratory adventure as they claimed DT will be!

Like it could be a fun small thing for us whilst the gang is investigating the McGuffin and Wuk Lamat is busy being the actual ruler of Tuliyollal.

well live letter is coming at the end of this month

let see if the team has anything to say, i doubt anything will happen but i still want to believe

I think, if they had portrayed Wuk not as the hokage with nearly no character growth, and instead as a spoiled, sheltered princess with no clue how the world works, the story would have been more interesting for me.

What if the WoL and friends all questioned the decision the disable the Eternal, but Wuk insisted on doing it because "they're not real"? What if Wuk made decisions she could not undo, and would regret? What if Wuk is forced to confront a reality she created, but can not bear to live in?

The story comes so close to setting this up, but instead becomes a family friendly happy-go lucky copypaste story where Wuk is perfect and always makes the right choices.

I would love Wuk if she were more realistic, probably. Unfortunate.