Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

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Originally Posted by Kethic

Divine Benison at 30sec recast, mandatory Lily means 28.8 sec recast on a 15 sec duration barrier. The heal loop there looks a little cleaner at least.

Cure 2
+ Confession
Divine Benison (28.8sec CD, no GCD)
Plenary Indulgence (15sec CD, no GCD)

Assize (60sec CD?, no GCD)
Tetra (60sec CD?, no GCD)

That's a lot of off cooldown healing with zero MP cost. Add passive healing like Regen and Medica 2, and well... Not saying this makes Lily's and Confessions good design, but we're definitely going to have a lot of GCDs to spend on DPS and mechanics.

edit: damn, forgot Confession is 20% chance. Less exciting now.

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I think if WHM looks underwhelming in Savage the first buffs will be either increased CDR from lillies or increased chance of Confession procs.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

It's going to be ok. Ok?

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No, it's not OK. I want the job to be fun, not just OK. This is why I don't play scholar. I don't find it fun. AST is looking to be a hell of a lot more fun than WHM is shaping out to be and a lot of the DPS jobs too. Hell PALADIN looks more exciting than WHM.

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

No, it's not OK. I want the job to be fun, not just OK. This is why I don't play scholar. I don't find it fun. AST is looking to be a hell of a lot more fun than WHM is shaping out to be and a lot of the DPS jobs too. Hell PALADIN looks more exciting than WHM.

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Ok, play another job then.
Game isn't even launched. Can this post be closed now?

Might as well let people have a chance to speak their mind.

I would like to see WHM have a stacking shield, a stacking attack speed buff, or stacking attack damage buff scaling with # of confessions on a target.

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Originally Posted by Caduagm

Ok, play another job then.
Game isn't even launched. Can this post be closed now?

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Why should the thread be closed?

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Originally Posted by Soldier_Zero

Might as well let people have a chance to speak their mind.

I would like to see WHM have a stacking shield, a stacking attack speed buff, or stacking attack damage buff scaling with # of confessions on a target.

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Well if Cure 2 still has a 100% chance to proc lily's on friday you will be able to pre-proc them prior to a pull and go in with three lily's up :D I have been asking myself did Yoshi think about that when he made that change. Most importantly can AST and SCH do the same thing?

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Well if Cure 2 still has a 100% chance to proc lily's on friday you will be able to pre-proc them prior to a pull and go in with three lily's up :D I have been asking myself did Yoshi think about that when he made that change. Most importantly can AST and SCH do the same thing?

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Incorrect. You can only gain lilies when you cast cure/cure2 while in combat. Based on the exact wording of the tool-tip, it may also be impossible to gain a lily proc or confession stack unless the player is missing hp at the time the cure lands.

Referenced from the E3 build screenshots: https://imgur.com/gallery/5RYol

Sadly, I believe kaellok is correct. I suspect opening rotations will be C2, DB, Regen, then drop into DPS rotation with oGCD heals as needed, and C2/DB refresh as often as possible/needed.

Should we make a new thread once Early Access goes live? That way we can have a fresh thread with how we feel how WHM works and our thoughts on it.

Also it would be more user-friendly to navigate than a multi-thread that's nearing the 3k post goal. >.>

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Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic

Should we make a new thread once Early Access goes live? That way we can have a fresh thread with how we feel how WHM works and our thoughts on it.

Much more friendly than a multi-thread that's nearing the 3k post goal.

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Maybe after we hit 70, so that way people telling us to sit down, shut up, we don't know what we're talking about, wait for end-game, etc., have no other excuses for why the changes are incredibly lackluster for anything beyond 4-man content. (And don't get me wrong, they are AMAZING for 4-man dungeons, it should be fun as hell in there. But nowhere else. Not predicting it to be more fun in other content than it is right now, tho, which is...not fun for me.)