Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

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Originally Posted by Roxus

Hey folks.

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As always, thanks for the updates...

Guessing the JP servers have heard just as much as we have as to any direction SE has for SAM?

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Originally Posted by FrogBiscuit

As always, thanks for the updates...

Guessing the JP servers have heard just as much as we have as to any direction SE has for SAM?

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Yup, radio silence. Oh but not to worry, YoshiP has enough time to write several messages for housing. Not to say it isn't important, but he created the disaster himself in the first place when he made poor decisions at the start of it's implementation. It has never, ever left the majority satisfied even once with every addition.

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Originally Posted by Roxus

No worries. Honestly Ninjas aren't getting much traction because they are the highest DPS at the moment, so it is satisfying to most.

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That's quite disappointing, I feared this might be the case since NIN is very strong currently despite its numerous issues in my opinion. I'm glad that more focus is on SAM who could use all the help it can get but I sincerely hope this won't mean sweeping Ninja under the rug.

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Originally Posted by Roxus

Hey folks.

Small update - more voices about the demerits of having guaranteed crits and disrupting party synergy, stating that this isn't a solo game and we raid with 8 members as a reminder. A few more voices on how Iaijutsu impact is nonexistant with the removal of Kaiten and potency shifts. More repeated statements of how our only contribution is DPS, as a pure DPS, and comparisons made yet again (as well as questioning why the adjustment was made to only one job). In short, many agree that the developers have no idea what they are doing with the concept of Samurai. Changing for the sake of convenience, and because Dragonsong Ultimate is all about short phases where burst is quite valuable so its speculated that the changes to Samurai and Ninja were made with this content in mind. Stop treating the game as a beta environment.

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Or ninja's trick attack was basically a fairly useless and actually dead ability until you reached level 45 and also did the quest to unlock Huton. That prior to the change, when you got it at level 18, it was for purely for outdoor content. The changes done made rogue useful with mug providing a damage buff when doing early dungeons and trials.

Like I don't know about you, but would you like to have a button on Samurai that you get at level 18, but can't use till 45?

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Originally Posted by Whalaqee

Or ninja's trick attack was basically a fairly useless and actually dead ability until you reached level 45 and also did the quest to unlock Huton. That prior to the change, when you got it at level 18, it was for purely for outdoor content. The changes done made rogue useful with mug providing a damage buff when doing early dungeons and trials.

Like I don't know about you, but would you like to have a button on Samurai that you get at level 18, but can't use till 45?

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I don't understand what you're trying to argue here. Most jobs have incomplete kits at low levels because that's precisely what it is - low levels. If you want to go that way, yes Samurai has a feels bad low level experience because they only get their dot unlocked for Iaijutsu at 30, and won't have access to their Midare until 50.

I'm sure the devs will take "people are no longer actively complaining about it" as "they waited and saw they liked the changes". So uh, here's a bump.

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Originally Posted by Karious

I'm sure the devs will take "people are no longer actively complaining about it" as "they waited and saw they liked the changes". So uh, here's a bump.

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That seems highly likely.

Gonna bump the post as well.

Please fix SAM. 6.1 and 6.11 was uncalled for. Listen to the cries of the people, please.

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Originally Posted by xAFROx

That seems highly likely.

Gonna bump the post as well.

Please fix SAM. 6.1 and 6.11 was uncalled for. Listen to the cries of the people, please.

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Yeah lol I'm just doing casual bumps so it doesn't look like people have forgotten, adjusted, and moved on.
Silence can often be misinterpreted as compliance.

Bump so SE can't think that if just ignore the issue, it'll slowly die.

Been a while, but I'm here to say that I still don't like the changes and Kaiten is still on my bars waiting to be revived.

Edit: Oh, also shift some of the potencies from the rotation back into Midare and Ogi, I hate that change too.