The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And we gained Critical Engagements and Duels. Think there's more than 18 of those.

Someone on reddit did the math a while back, and ShB is not lacking in bosses compared to previous expansions, nor is it lacking in unique weapon models. I wish i could find it, but i'm not big into reddit so i didnt save the post.

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Critical engagements are no different from NM’s in eureka tho lol. They’re just blocked off.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Critical engagements are no different from NM’s in eureka tho lol. They’re just blocked off.

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Well, theres at least 12 from the large scale instances in bozja, plus duels. an extra EX in memoria, plus the unreal trials.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Well, theres at least 12 from the large scale instances in bozja, plus duels. an extra EX in memoria, plus the unreal trials.

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We got two extra trials in SB. Yojimbo and rathalos ex. Unreal trials literally aren’t anything new. I would agree if they had at least done something to them whether it was a few new mechanics or what. But it’s literally just ARR trials scaled up... that isn’t new content. It’s like the relic quests just being to farm old content like crystal tower over and over. It’s boring and trying to rehash old content instead of coming up with something new.

ShB was just meh on job design wise and battle content wise, was great for crafting and gathering. So just a little disappointing in hindsight to SB, which overtime is being revalued and might surpass HW as the best xpac.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

We got two extra trials in SB. Yojimbo and rathalos ex. Unreal trials literally aren’t anything new. I would agree if they had at least done something to them whether it was a few new mechanics or what. But it’s literally just ARR trials scaled up... that isn’t new content. It’s like the relic quests just being to farm old content like crystal tower over and over. It’s boring and trying to rehash old content instead of coming up with something new.

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Then in that regard, eureka wasn't new. it was just fates. And HoH was just POTD with new pomanders (in your mind, it should be less content because its 100 less floors).

Rathalos was a crossover, and there wasn't an EX version for Gilgamesh.

Basically, we are arguing semantics and the content amounts were about equal.

There are only 2 more dungeons from 4.x than in 5.x. That's not vastly different.

No one cares.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Critical engagements are no different from NM’s in eureka tho lol. They’re just blocked off.

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Blocking them off is actually a pretty big difference, especially since there's a participation cap. I love the souped-up fate system in Bozja, and I'm really hoping we see further enhancements in Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Blocking them off is actually a pretty big difference, especially since there's a participation cap. I love the souped-up fate system in Bozja, and I'm really hoping we see further enhancements in Endwalker.

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I dislike it tbh. It just blocks people out and the level requirements in things encourages kicking low levels from parties. I’m of the crowd that likes eureka more than bozja though so that probably makes sense :p

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And we gained Critical Engagements and Duels. Think there's more than 18 of those.

Someone on reddit did the math a while back, and ShB is not lacking in bosses compared to previous expansions, nor is it lacking in unique weapon models. I wish i could find it, but i'm not big into reddit so i didnt save the post.

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We sure did and the relic experience is new and different and a lot of work and effort was put into those including the instance dungeons and raids there. I personally loved Eureka and Borja is also fun and different from the standard dungeon formats.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

The people who hope for a kick at how the GCBTW will react are not the people claiming that the community isn't toxic or that they want to gatekeep the oh so toxic WoW players from the game.

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That's what I said. They have bad intentions for the community and call the community toxic.

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Enjoying seeing people people who lie about the state of the community and who don't take any criticism of the game being faced with differing opinions, or worse, inconvenient truths about the game and its community and their reactions to their exposure to such vicious dissent, is not at all on the same level as basically saying "f off, we don't want you here you toxic pricks" towards an entire demographic while simultaneously claiming that XIV's playerbase is a paragon of acceptance.

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It's not on the same level. It's worse. Both sides are cynical, but one side also thinks some people are lying about their good experience.

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Its not an overreaction to people enjoying the game -- stop with that. Its basically the meme of people flipping out when someone criticizes the game because of X, Y, Z. We saw this with a streamer in the past (Scottzone) who criticized Eden. Its fine to enjoy the game and love it: the GCBTW comes out when people take the fanatic route and avidly have to defend the game and claim all criticism as invalid.

Now -- suddenly, you have the largest MMO streamer on the platform coming to try out your game. A streamer whose persona is typically loudmouth, no bullshit, end-game focused in MMOs. A streamer who has an avid dislike towards RM cash shops. A streamer who has a rabid fanbase that is considered toxic and will follow him around in game.

We have the makings here for a beautiful powder keg.

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It is overreaction because the community at large is not praising people sending death threats. So who are you memeing on when you say GCBTW? The community is not the problem here.

On the other hand, when people share their good experience, people like to celebrate that experience until someone inevitably comes along to point out that the community is not so good and to know about GCBTW.

That's the problem with GCBTW. The community obviously favors good interactions, but people want to credit bad behaviors to the community as well.

And let's consider the fact that this particular streamer also has haters from the WoW community. So it's not as if dislike toward him (or what he may potentially bring to the community) is unique to FFXIV. After all, there is some overlap between the FFXIV and the WoW communities.

Regardless, people who favor him joining the community (or neutral at best) show that this community is not united in wanting to keep him away.