The harp is a lie.

I'm not saying it isn't a bow harp... I'm saying it's stupid.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

Compound bows just refer to bows that are made of more than one material. Some can fold... but never in use, and never while strung.

There is one bow in that link that I saw that folds, (the browning folding bow) and alot that can be taken apart.

The idea of a bow that folds into something else is silly for several reasons. The first being it wouldnt ever be able to fold while strung, and the act of stringing and unstringing a bow is not something you can really do quickly and over and over again.

The structural integrity is also something to consider... that harp won't have any flexion, that bow would really have the effective range of a bow half it's size... which is awful.

And mainly the sheer extra weight would be arduous at best. Long bows and Recurve bows have a draw strength usually around 100 pounds. Having to draw 100 pounds of weight while holding that harp up is not going to be an easy thing to do.

Bows work because of the tension they hold... being able to fold it up or change it into something else while it's strung is just not going to happen, and trying to design something around that premise just seems feeble.

Blah, blah, fantasy, make believe--no!... Just, no.

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I know you don't like the whole fantasy argument, but you really are going too far into the reality of it. From a series that had the Buster Sword and the Gunblade in the past, I think we can afford to overlook the little realistic details of a transforming bow mechanic so long as it's convincingly designed.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

I'm not saying it isn't a bow harp... I'm saying it's stupid.

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So its not the most glorious idea. The still made it, wheather its physically possible or not.
enjoy your sword or lance or what have you, cuz im gonna be rockin out on my bow-harp.

I will admit that it doesn't need to be 100% physically accurate. I just don't think they should be trying to create a bow that transforms when the outcome is so bad... and the clear alternative is to just carry a harp and a bow.

It's like the joke about Astronauts and Cosmonauts.

When NASA started conducting experiments in Null gravity they came across a problem with ball point and fountain pens not working because there was nothing to draw the ink out and on to the surface of whatever you were writing on, so NASA designed a pen that could write in null gravity, upside down, under water and costs thousands of dollars.

When confronted with the same problem, the Russian Cosmonauts all started using pencils.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

I will admit that it doesn't need to be 100% physically accurate. I just don't think they should be trying to create a bow that transforms when the outcome is so bad... and the clear alternative is to just carry a harp and a bow.

It's like the joke about Astronauts and Cosmonauts.



When NASA started conducting experiments in Null gravity they came across a problem with ball point and fountain pens not working because there was nothing to draw the ink out and on to the surface of whatever you were writing on, so NASA designed a pen that could write in null gravity, upside down, under water and costs thousands of dollars.

When confronted with the same problem, the Russian Cosmonauts all started using pencils.

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Yeah, I can see where your coming from. To be honest I wasn't expecting a bow-harp, but I'm curious to find out its finer points. As for an Artifact weapon I was expecting something along the lines of this. Still, we gotta be more open-minded. If it sucks then we have all right to complain, until then we should save are comments on its functionality till after we've tried it.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

I will admit that it doesn't need to be 100% physically accurate. I just don't think they should be trying to create a bow that transforms when the outcome is so bad... and the clear alternative is to just carry a harp and a bow.

It's like the joke about Astronauts and Cosmonauts.

When NASA started conducting experiments in Null gravity they came across a problem with ball point and fountain pens not working because there was nothing to draw the ink out and on to the surface of whatever you were writing on, so NASA designed a pen that could write in null gravity, upside down, under water and costs thousands of dollars.

When confronted with the same problem, the Russian Cosmonauts all started using pencils.

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As far as cost efficiency goes the pencil is much better. That thousand-dollar pen sounds much more cool to me though!

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

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Good ol' RO...

By this point I'm just arguing out of stubbornness.

If you are excited for the bow harps and Barchers more power to you.

I just really am not.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

As far as cost efficiency goes the pencil is much better. That thousand-dollar pen sounds much more cool to me though!

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You are right... they are pretty damn cool. But they also work... <<;

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Originally Posted by Ferth

You are right... they are pretty damn cool. But they also work... <<;

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Yeah, imagine if the pen broke the entire english language, then it's not so cool anymore. Which is relevant because barcher breaks the entire FFXIV game.

Barcher sets a precedent for destruction of the armory system as we know it. The end is nigh!

Eventually you just have to question their ability to fix a game when all they do is mutilate it.

-Crafters are all now materia users (more or less)
-Game will be repositioned as a gear grind
-Player-run economy compromised by handouts

And now this barcher debacle, setting up the premise for new tools/weapons not having their own class. Barcher defies the rules of the game and creates inconsistencies and confusion. Not only does it deprive players of a reasonable sense of progression, but it doesn't even begin to make sense with respect to the entire foundation of the game.