Alienation of Dedicated and Skilled players

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

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Yeah accurate data is hard to come by in this. And yeah I mean you and I think that but im not so sure about the community feeling that way . I mean rotations and current sub stats are hard for a lot of the community as is. I also don\\\\'t see adding more sub stats as a real fix. Because what will happen? We just wind up as carbon copies in the end anyway. I\\\\'ve seen horizontal progression tried so many ways and it always turns out the same. Same build same stats . the closest game to get it somewhat decent was RO. But unless 14 is overhauled quite a bit even an attempt made at horizontal would end up vertical and dissatisfying. Either that or the small bonuses are so small they\\\\'re insignificant. True horizontal progression is tricky to do in a game with ever increasing gear level,level caps, and a casual playerbase. Even more tricky to balance properly. In a perfect world Itd work but it honestly feels like Itd just be wasted Dev time.

Just because I want plenty of accurate data to work with and people seem displeased with the wording of the other poll, I've set up a survey of my own to gather players thoughts on this topic.

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Originally Posted by zosia

It's representative as a sample of Forum opinions. It shows that its very likely that the general forum opinion is such that at least more than 50% of the active players on the forum want a change. Right now the poll shows 3/4 players want change. I am giving you a +/-25% margin to work with there, waaaaaay generous. It's pretty obvious the majority of active forum users are tired of the stale formula and anyone who wants to keep the current state of things for years to come is the minority opinion.

As we all know here on these forums from how raiders are treated, minorities and their opinions don't matter. Suck it up, the majority of players on these forums, a place where SE gathers player feedback, want a more complex gear system than we have now.

Really at this point, it's just time to /popcorn as we watch what was once an active player base of 1M subscribers drop to 900k, 800k, 700k, 600k, etc. As this game careen's down the pipes, I can at least take satisfaction in watching bad decision after bad decision unfold doing more and more damage to this game.

Yeah, lets change nothing, lets see how many players we have a year out from now. LOLOLOL there is going to be like 3 people playing this game.

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I watched 2 games i loved dying and went F2P (won't happen with this game but it won't be in good shoes either), one was Aion, i went to the forums warn, they laughed a few months later it went F2P, then it was TERA, they laughed, 1 Year later was F2P when they said it would take a minimum of 2 Years if that was to happen.

Casuals don't seem to understand a lot of things, to them from what i see is that if there's content everything's fine, which in this game for them there's a ton of content, but for raiders there's only Savage, hurray!