SE Please add jump and swiming

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Originally Posted by options

Unfortuneately, Yoshi may remove jump because of the complaining.

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I doubt it. Could happen, but I doubt it very much. If the producer were still Tanaka, then yeah we wouldn't even be having this debate cause no way jump would ever be added. But with Yoshi... I don't see it happening. He's already proven he will go ahead with changes he feels should be made if there is no valid reason not to. The few people still stuck on the anti-jump bandwagon aren't going to change his mind.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Its like talking to a wall lol.

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It takes a lot of hatred for something to sit there and state that players of another MMORPG is why no one will play FFXIV, ignoring the obvious reasons why people left and haven't returned yet.

Protip: It's not because of people who play FFXI.

"Originally Posted by ellohwell
Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines."


Its offensive in the way that you stated it. A moderator removed your post. QED.

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Originally Posted by irongripz

lack of imagination has no place in final fantasy

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Imagination has absolutely nothing to do with having players hop all over the place like in Rift.

Perhaps you would like to state the reason why you would like to see Jump added to FFXIV and why rather than attacking someones statement or idea with an ad hominem argument.

If you wanna jump, go play Super Mario Bros, there's a loooooot of jumping there.

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Originally Posted by Tyro

If you wanna jump, go play Super Mario Bros, there's a loooooot of jumping there.

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If you don't wanna jump, go play FFXI, there's a loooooot of no jumping there.

See how dumb that sounds? Think your post sounds any more intelligent?

If they do put jumping in the game, I hope it is similar to fantasy zero's jumping. Making it so jumping doesn't become exploitable and unattractive. You shouldn't be able to jump in cities. A jumping system similar to fantasy zero will allow players to use jumping in a more strategic manner so that it is situational and doesn't become something that is best mindlessly repeated. For those that do not know what the jumping in Fantasy Zero was like, it is directional and similar to dodging I guess. Jumping quickly to the left, right, back, or forward. This is followed by a short pause to the player's movement that keeps it from being used in a thoughtless manner. In any case you should be able to travel faster by jogging, but cover a short distance quickly by jumping to that spot. Also a PvP simlar to Fantasy Zero's would be amazing.

Onidemon, you must be my brother from another mother because you respond before I can; saying pretty much what I want to say each time. Regardless, let's not get carried away with the "FFXI-2" debate cuz its a waste of time. Stop giving Jennestia something to type at. She, and the many others against jump, just want to win this argument on any level possible. "Jump looks stupid!" What a stupid argument, and it's the only one they've really got.

There's good reasoning behind why Yoshi wanted to implement jump, and its very simple. The year is 2011 (soon to be 2012). That's it. It's the same reason why every single first-person shooter out there no longer plays like Wolfenstein 3D or Doom. It's the same reason why FFXIV has an action bar palette of skills to choose from at the bottom of the screen. Let's be real; Final Fantasy XI copied all the good mmo's of its time... namely Everquest.

What people (especially FFXI players) are forgetting is that we're dealing with Square Enix here. Not Blizzard. So if SE decides they want to add another dimension to the game like jump, then you know it will be done beautifully and with respect to the way they make games. They just added jump to FFXIII-2 and it's awesome, because SE did it. Not Blizzard. I think we all (especially FFXI conservatives) have to remember: Square Enix is making this game. Not Blizzard. If Yoshi (Producer and Director at Square Enix) wants to add jump, let him. Because I'm pretty damn sure they will all do a fine job implementing it.

As for all these "bunny rabbits" jumping around in all the other mmo's out there. Call me crazy, but why in the world does that even bother people?! You people that hate jump consider yourselves some kind of Final Fantasy elitists who think our game sets itself apart from "all those other mmo's" because we are glued to the ground like prisoners of some Gravity spell. Get over yourselves. Is seeing people jump really going to ruin the game experience for y'all? The answer is NO. It won't. You guys will still play and enjoy this game regardless and forget about this whole debate. Seeing people jump shouldn't drive ppl insane, and if it does... then y'all got problems and need to see a therapist for something so menial like a fundamental mmo mechanic. Get off your high-horses, stop setting yourselves apart from the rest of the world, and accept that MMORPG games have evolved.

Jumping. Swimming. Climbing. Flying. All these have made major impacts in the genre. If any of these are ever added to a FINAL FANTASY game, it would be awesome and welcome. Especially because SE would be doing it. Not Blizzard.

Here are my suggestions for Jumping:

1) Only allow jumping where jumping is needed (contextual jumping)
2) Have a cooldown on jump so people don't using jump as their primary mode of transportation...

Jumping should have a need, not be something to do because you're bored.

I'm all for swimming however. Could you just imagine having to swim under a lake to reach a shrine to fight Leviathan? :D