Astrologian "BUFFS"

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Originally Posted by Sidra

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Sorry, I'm pretty much of the same mind as Gideon on this. Brief reasons:

- Lightspeed is now a decent efficiency buff, but remains fairly weak as a healing CD since the "emergency" benefit is almost entirely front-loaded. Sure, it can be nice if you want to move while casting for a few GCDs, but the nature of a healing emergency is almost always "need burst now" rather than "need to chain-cast as I perform the hokey-pokey."

- While AST healing potency is more than sufficient, WHM and SCH are both superior burst healers and multi-taskers. In the case of SCH you have not only the SCH's heals but the fairy with her own GCD.

- I don't play WHM past 50 yet, but comparing AST to SCH is a little depressing from a numbers standpoint. AST is a functional healer, sure, but in my experience thus far, raid DPS and total healing is always higher with SCH+WHM than with AST+WHM. Even allowing for the possibility that I'm amazing on SCH and not as good as I think I am on AST, I'm not alone in making this observation.

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Originally Posted by tjw

That doesn't negate the fact that the faerie is a permanent Synastry, that can be placed on other people as well. Adlo costs a lot of mana yes. But their MP restoration is famous for being the best out of all the healers. Oh, no EOS you said? A Selene also means that a SCH has access to a guaranteed Expanded Arrow every minute. So the faerie atm is just permanent Synastry that can be re-targetted, along with additional buffs.

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Please do not misunderstand. I agree that AST needs help. I was just debating the fact that most of SCH tools are mutually exclusive, and the fairy is ultimately a gimmick that delegates part of a SCH power to a pet, no different than a SMN.
MP restoration of SCH is the best, yes, but MP usage is also the worst, especially if you are to dps with Broil. Also, keep in mind that most of the useful tools are Aetherflow-bound. Want to dps? Sorry, no lustrates or indomitability for you.

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Originally Posted by Budi

I stated that free means no MP cost from the beginning, and never tried to argue otherwise. People only tried to argue the meaning of the word 'free', but failed, because the only thing they care about is "being right on the internet" and not what was actually said. That's why no one could answer my question "Why does it matter?" properly, because it doesn't.
You are literally trying to force a different meaning on the word I used to show to me that I'm wrong.

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Technically I could use Aetherflow stacks to get MP via Energy Drain. This means that every skill that uses Aetherflow costs exactly the amount of MP I would gain by using Energy Drain. This means they are not free, period.
Currently my ED gives me around 840 MP. This makes Lustrate cost that much, which is quite steep all things considered.

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Originally Posted by Galdous

Astrologian has already healed A1 and A2. Not sure if you expect people to take you seriously.

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Alright bro, how about you come back when you've actually levelled AST, let alone taken it to savage. I have done both. We all make do, that doesn't mean there isn't room for vast improvements. I'm pretty sure no one has taken you seriously here.

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Originally Posted by Sidra

If I say I will clean your house if you give me a hug, is it a free house cleaning because it didn't cost you money?

Aetherflows are a finite resource just like MP - and one could actually make the case that due to their usefulness and scarcity, an ability that costs one is actually more expensive than something with a standard MP cost.

I will agree with you it's free of MP costs if you agree it's not free, then you all could get back to whatever it is you were discussing before.

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A better example would be you cleaning their house in exchange for living in the spare room in their home. They could have used that room for an office, a playroom, or they could have rented the room out for money. In the case of Aetherflow, the lost MP is the same as the lost money from giving the room up.

As for AST (as an AST currently in Savage), the job is obviously on par with WHM or SCH. Regardless of what their cards bring to the table, they still need to be able to do their basic job, which is healing. The reason BRDs and MCHs can get away with doing less damage is because in raid content, there are three other dps to pick up the burden. BRD/MCH also provide support to those 3 dps to improve their damage to make up for their lower numbers. Even in 4 man content, they're more than likely able to improve the damage of their other damage dealer. For AST though, this doesn't translate as well because in raid content they only have one other healer and they are not improving that healer's output in any way. In 4 man content, they are the sole healer with lower throughput.

While I'll be the first to agree that AST can do most content fine, that doesn't mean they're doing it well. To put it simply, my limits as an AST are noticeably lower than a WHM or SCH.

Astro can do all content well. Pe ole only utilize half of what an astro can do so yes they think it sucks.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Astro can do all content well. Pe ole only utilize half of what an astro can do so yes they think it sucks.

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So true! I personally, only utilize half of my skills because I'm waiting for SE to give me the other half of them.

Oh yes was specifically called you out of all the complaints of healers who call Noc stance crap and use diurnal almost exclusively.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Astro can do all content well. Pe ole only utilize half of what an astro can do so yes they think it sucks.

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O'rly? How is your alex:savage clears going?

Aren't there Astro clearing the savages ?