Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

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Originally Posted by OziAuros

Imagine, if you would, someone being dumbfounded that their lalafell isn't being allowed into a bar venue. Not even one of a billion brothels, but a bar. Everyone there is going to end up with the mental picture of the little guy taking a swig. There are people out there who have chosen to play a toddler-adjacent character, and wanted to get their sippy on because they don't see the issue. There are also people out there that pick the toddler-adjacent character to go to the same bar with hopes of ERPing. Might even be with another toddler-adjacent character. How do you tell in advance which is which?

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To be fair, no one should ever be excluded from any venue because of their race. I was asked to leave a venue once because it had courtesans and they were uncomfortable having a Lala around. I flat out told them "No thanks. I think I'll stay around. " They were a bit confused, but didn't harass me. I expected I might get reported and messaged by a GM, but nope, nothing.

Unless you have someone actually making a scene, you have no business telling certain players or races that they can't be around.

All of the little lalafell pfps in outrage is making me laugh so hard ngl

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

All of the little lalafell pfps in outrage is making me laugh so hard ngl

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Good contender for the best useless drama of the year.

This is pure gold.

I can't take Lalafell discourse seriously because of the sheer amount of times outspoken figures in the "Lalafells are adults!" crowd have been outed as actually being into underage content.

Sorry, I really don't understand how this chair itself is supposed to be infantilizing. Honestly.
A baby Chair looks a fair bit different, with them not only having a bigger back to lean up against in, but also being designed to quite literally contain a child in a way that doesn't let them fall out of said chair.

This genuinely looks to me like someone in Eorzea/the wider World of the Game noticed that Lalafells need chairs etc that are taller to be able to sit at tables made with larger races in mind. Even if you rename it from Lalafell Lifter to something like "Lifter Chair" or whatever doesn't do anything to change that. The Design of it is just cutesy to me, kinda like how Lalafell are supposed to be cutesy.

Of course there's also technical limitations to consider. Someone already said it earlier but I doubt with the current Spaghetti Code of the Game it's possible to specifically design furniture just for a specific race, so this chair does fill a certain niche in that regard and I wish it actually was even taller to actually lift anyone sitting on it higher up.

i get some is mad about it but its just furniture.

i have barely eny one talking to me in game or outside it eny how so im just happy some just jk around whit it giving me some attention.

its not like it vill change hu i am and/or as the race i play as i just enjoy it. this funny pink chair is a cuple of poligons and lalafells are just lalafells not children or eny thing of sorts its how simple it is atleast for me that is

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Originally Posted by Midare

One thing that would help is, I don't know... not giving those people extra ammo.

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Right, so what you actually mean to say is that you don't want any item in-game that can be misused or misconstrued in any way whatsoever? Got it. Grab me some candyfloss whilst you're all the way up there in the clouds, will you? The grass will still be here, waiting for you, when you're ready to come back down to Earth.

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Originally Posted by Midare

Sure, they have the right to do it, but that doesn't help either nor contributes anything

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The purpose of complaining about the complaint is to show disagreement with the people wanting to take something away from the people who actually like it, which is a far better use of time than crying over something that you aren't forced to interact with.

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Originally Posted by Midare

First and foremost... the fact that you're conflating stature with age it's just mind boggling to me. Since when those are synonymous?

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First and foremost... the fact that you think I'm conflating the two is just mind boggling to me. Since when did I say they're synonymous?

I said what I said. If you're having a hard time understanding why an extremely short character designed in a toddler-like fashion resembles children in any way whatsoever then I think you've got more pressing issues to worry about.

Maybe go back and read what I said again, and you'll see that I wasn't conflating anything.

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Originally Posted by Midare

They're not even here to defend the item being there, they're here to just complain that the complain exists in the first place while calling those with the concern childish, while also using the phrasing a high-schooler would use.

Your double standards are showing.

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You don't get to police how other people choose to show their disagreement as long as it isn't abusive or harassment. If they want to show their disagreement with OP by using high-school sarcasm, jokes, or by talking about how pointless the feedback post is, that's their prerogative and you need to get over it.

There's no double standard here, you're just seemingly incapable of seeing why you're defending the wrong perspective. The item doesn't need changing in any way whatsoever. IF people misuse it on a mass scale, sure... but trying to pre-emptively declare it as a source of evil just because you disagree with how "should" have been made in your opinion is pretty pathetic.

Why should this item be taken away from people who do like it just because some of you don't? Has anything bad happened yet? Are thousands of people Eorzea-wide trapping lalafellin folk in high chairs and torturing them with incessant sweet-eyes and "awws" right as we speak?

If you want a different high chair, ask for a different high chair and stop being so selfish and egotistical as to expect things to be changed to suit your tastes.

It appears to be your double standards that are showing.

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Originally Posted by Pyshiro

I don't want to even imagine going to people's in game houses or RP venues just to be told to go sit in the child's corner :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqnqvD-W...pg&name=medium

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They give you a free fantasia after completing ARR if you want to correct your mistake

Thats just rude as making a lalafell is not a mistake we do have feelings as well you know?

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

To be fair, no one should ever be excluded from any venue because of their race. I wad asked to leave a venue once because it had courtesans and they were uncomfortable having a Lala around. I flst out told them "No thanks. I think I'll stay around " they were a bit confused, but didn't harass me. I expected I might get reported and messaged by a GM, but nope, nothing.

Unless you have someone actually making a scene, you have no business telling certain players or races thst they can't be around.

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If you're at a venue and the people running it ask you to leave, what makes you think that is an okay response?