"gogogo" might make me quit this game.

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Originally Posted by Ronduwil

We're playing a freaking game. Obviously we're wasting time. If I wanted to be efficient, I would shut off the computer, find a productive task, and efficiently carry it out. When I'm in a video game I'm there to waste time. What "other things" would you rather be doing? If you'd rather be doing them than running the dungeon, then simply do them instead of queueing to begin with. You're queueing for dungeons and then complaining because others aren't allowing you to get out of the dungeon that you queued for fast enough.

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This game has many chores I will call them that people are tasked with. People may be trying to fit in capping weekly tomes, leveling alt classes, leveling crafting, relic weapons, farming scrips, working progression on raid like content, catching up on d content such as eureka for example, leveling in bozja. The list goes on.
The more efficient 1 piece of content is tackled, the more time people have for others. So because people are scared to get better, test the limits of a class or even their own abilities, people may miss out on getting other stuff done. It’s not as simple as don’t queue up. The same could be said in reverse as the meta is fast clears are better.
If you want to waste time in a game, more power to you. But you’re wasting other people’s time because you wont step up your game

When's the single player version of FFXIV coming out so we can stop playing with one another already?

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Originally Posted by hydralus

When's the single player version of FFXIV coming out so we can stop playing with one another already?

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You know who ends up happy when the game compromises for everyone?

No one. They should make a game the devs would enjoy playing, which I'm guessing is on the harder side. Instead of selling out and going for max subs, but that's not where the money is.

I think there's people that enjoy gaming, and like a challenge, and then there's people that enjoy relaxing, and want to have a game on the side to be doing something mindless.

If they are going to make dungeons any easier they should just make cutscenes instead, noone will want to run them anyways. It's just something you have to get through, the people that don't enjoy difficulty don't want to do anything anyways, and the people who like difficulty will at least not have to deal with the disappointment of putting effort into something that isn't fulfilling.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

This game has many chores I will call them that people are tasked with.

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Yes, and some of these chores are in place to reward older players for helping out newer players. I understand the desire for efficiency, but expecting everyone else to adjust their leisurely activities to make your chores more efficient seems super entitled, in my opinion. The whole reason I left WoW was that it felt like nothing but chores, and the developers actually leaned into that mentality, making the game nothing but chores. I've seen where this mentality leads, and it's not to a good place.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

If you want to waste time in a game, more power to you. But you’re wasting other people’s time because you wont step up your game

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I never said that I won't step up my game or that I don't try to accommodate the go go go crowd. I've said that it's unfun. There's a huge difference.

If you want to quit nobody hold you back. But the onus is normally player and most likely you. Have you tried communication?
As a tank, player should ask first: 'slow or fast?' and go slow if only 1 person ask so. As a healer, speak up if you are underwhelm or overwhelm. As a dps, ask for wait if you want to watch cutscene (which you can skip and watch later in the inn if you like).

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

You want slow, methodical runs? Start a party finder.

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Right back at you. If you want to efficiently run roulettes, start a party finder and queue as a team rather than expecting a bunch of random players with no expectations to run at a breakneck speed. Or stick to the expert roulette.

One of the main reasons that trusts do not use aoe abilities is because they were designed to be slower than normal players. Thus, logic follows that if you cannot handle aoeing multiple packs at a time, then use npcs instead of burdening normal players who are understood by the devs to clear instances at a faster pace.

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Originally Posted by Rowde

You got so many bad takes it's difficult to know where to begin, but guess I'll start here. Now I wonder what could possibly be the incentive for max level players to queue for dungeons via roulettes in the first place? Would be weird if there was a resource that was only awarded at the completion of the dungeon that would incentivize getting through the content quicker so they could move on to the next activity that rewards that resource.

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The reward is for playing through content that you otherwise wouldn't want to do in order to benefit newer players who are not necessarily even getting the same rewards that you are. You're not getting those 50 tomestones just for completing a dungeon that you've outleveled long ago. You're getting that rewards for accommodating newer players. Honestly, most of the people in the game seem to understand that. The elitism on these forums is in no way indicative of anything I've seen in the game. The MSQ is a classic case in point. It rewards 50 tomestones, and everything falls right over. They even drove the point home by making the cut scenes unskippable so that new players don't come out of their cut scene only to find out that a bunch of jerks facerolled the boss before their cut scene was even over. You're trying to counter a "bad take" with a take of your own that is completely at odds with the way the game is designed.

You are free to go slow, but the rest of us are free to go fast. You can enjoy the ride, and the rest of us can get work done.

I remember when I was a new player, I didn't actually watch any cutscenes for dungeons, or group content, because I thought it was rude. I skipped them all on my first time through. :p