Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Well its not my fault SE opted to have SAM use Striking gear instead of its own unique gearset. The precedent is set, like it or not. (though I'm kinda expecting two for Melee gear-types rather than 4)

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But it doesn’t change the fact that those sets aren’t how they separate the roles. Since the only impact that even has one the game is gear sets in 5 mans. They really aren’t going to round out the melee sets to have umpteen melee classes just because they haven’t consolidated them yet.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

So a 4th healer and a 5th melee?

I would say a 4th caster is much more likely than a 5th melee since they group the roles based on main stat allocation for parties rather than adding a job just to give someone a maiming set. Since they have all the melee grouped into one melee role, not melee + sets.

Posts like this make me think people are convinced we are going to have 4 tanks, 10 melee, 3 caster, 3 ranged physical and 4 healers just to round out melee sets.

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The thing is, you could just as easily split the DPS roles into melee/ranged as you could melee/phys-ranged/mag-ranged.
Which puts us at 4/6 rather than 4/3/3.

While I think there's more scope for more casters than melee, I think there's probably more scope for melee than physical ranged.
In that I honestly can't think of another physical ranged job that I think will work in XIV.
So then do you leave it at 4/3/4 with the addition of a new caster?
Or do you bump it up to 6/6 with two more melee?

Or, my preference, you don't pay the role split too much attention, add a new caster, and maybe a new melee as well, maybe two more of each once we get a few more expansions out, and who cares if it comes out at 6/3/5?
But of course, the physical ranged mains will complain.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The thing is, you could just as easily split the DPS roles into melee/ranged as you could melee/phys-ranged/mag-ranged.
Which puts us at 4/6 rather than 4/3/3.

While I think there's more scope for more casters than melee, I think there's probably more scope for melee than physical ranged.
In that I honestly can't think of another physical ranged job that I think will work in XIV.
So then do you leave it at 4/3/4 with the addition of a new caster?
Or do you bump it up to 6/6 with two more melee?

Or, my preference, you don't pay the role split too much attention, add a new caster, and maybe a new melee as well, maybe two more of each once we get a few more expansions out, and who cares if it comes out at 6/3/5?
But of course, the physical ranged mains will complain.

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The 5.0 patch notes list the roles though. It’s not about us splitting them, the patch notes themselves have the classes and 5 roles listed as Tank/Healer/Melee/Caster/Physical Ranged.

Exactly. Regardless of personal feelings on anything else, SE explicitly acknowledges the five roles. If anything was getting combined based on the role quests it would be physical jobs, so we’d need to double up on Casters. Since I doubt that’ll happen we are looking at balancing the five roles currently there.

As far as new ranged physical goes there’s plenty of options.

Ball-And-Chain would be my Ranged choice. Make that !#% the Viking.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Ball-And-Chain would be my Ranged choice. Make that !#% the Viking.

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Physical Ranged seems to be more of projectile weapons. They could do a sling I suppose? But that’s a bit different. Or some sort of shot put kind of thing. Spears have reach too but they’re still melee, and the kind of range being talked about makes really long reach hard to pull off well.

either hammer or whip sword weapon.

and give me melee healer yoshi

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

The 5.0 patch notes list the roles though. It’s not about us splitting them, the patch notes themselves have the classes and 5 roles listed as Tank/Healer/Melee/Caster/Physical Ranged.

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And yet we have 4 person parties instead of 5.
AST has melee/ranged cards.
Extreme and savage tier fights balanced around having 2 melee and 2 ranged.
I'm saying it's not clear cut.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

The 5.0 patch notes list the roles though. It’s not about us splitting them, the patch notes themselves have the classes and 5 roles listed as Tank/Healer/Melee/Caster/Physical Ranged.

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While there are 5 roles, fight design is built around only 4 roles: Tanks/Healers/Melee/Ranged. Casters and Ranged are treated as the same role for fight design with LB and cast times being the primary differences between the 2.

If you look at things from that perspective the game has 4 Tanks, 3 Healers, 4 Melee and 6(!) Ranged.

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Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia

Physical Ranged seems to be more of projectile weapons. They could do a sling I suppose? But that’s a bit different. Or some sort of shot put kind of thing. Spears have reach too but they’re still melee, and the kind of range being talked about makes really long reach hard to pull off well.

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Personally I think there are only to more options for ranged weapons, Crossbows and Whips.

Crossbows could be too similar to Bards Bows, but of course they won't just base the entire job around the weapon, so it'll have further identity to distance it from Bard. What that identity is I have no idea, they'll have to be very creative. Perhaps they can somehow rope Time Mage into a non-mage job, like they did with XII's Job system.

Personally I'd rather see Whips as they're more unique, however I can see it coming with difficulty in animating several different models of Whip. So... I think this may be used for a Beast Tamer limited job, seeing as it'll only have a couple weapon options anyway.