Viera males should be smaller like Au Ra females

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Originally Posted by Renik

It's not so many, really, if you compare the likes here with the likes of removing the genderlock thread, even if only a 25% of the likes are from people who would like to change to male viera, they still outnumber by far the likes of the ones asking for smaller male viera, it just seems to be on demmand because the same 10 people who want them keep posting daily about the matter to the point some of them end reaching the daily post limit.
Just hope SE is able to see the difference between feedback and insistence.

Also, let SE decide, don't turn a classic to be discovered into a personal niche...

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This, I'd rather we just let them decide the body types at most, musing is one thing but it could be off putting to see this thread up along with the regular male viera thread. Could give them the impression "These guys don't know what they want!"

Oh it's outside of the forums that I'm seeing it too! Friends, discords, twitter etc. Also I didn't know male bunbuns were smaller irl! That's a pretty good reason, and I can definitely see wanting more cute males just like how I'd personally like wider and more fierce looking ladies!

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Originally Posted by VyelChuChu

Oh it's outside of the forums that I'm seeing it too! Friends, discords, twitter etc. Also I didn't know male bunbuns were smaller irl! That's a pretty good reason, and I can definitely see wanting more cute males just like how I'd personally like wider and more fierce looking ladies!

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Same thing, the OF as well as any other social media site, are a size sample, the values of people supporting viera vs people asking for samller viera or any other body type will be about the same across any social media site (excluding some niche sites which could be more inclined to one side because of their nature), being the official forums and the ffxiv subreddit the most reliable ones, as they get feedback directly from players instead of people non related to the game.

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Originally Posted by VyelChuChu

I'm fine with this idea! But is there a particular reason so many people would like small male viera? I can think of a few personally why it would be cool but none of them seem like reasons that would be widespread. :confused:

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I personally want shorter men because no other race in ffxiv has that kind of dimorphism (and honestly I can only think of one other game with a similar design), it mirrors real life rabbits, and tbh I'm still salty about female au ra and would just like to have the female of a race be the more physically imposing one to kind of balance out that gross imbalance of statures between the genders of each race.

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Originally Posted by Renik

it just seems to be on demmand because the same 10 people who want them keep posting daily

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That's just anecdotal. I've seen plenty of people who would like a small male viera on the official forums and elsewhere - this is anecdotal as well. Neither of us know anything for certain.
I can only speak for myself when I say I would like the male viera to be just a bit shorter than their female counterparts, but even if the males are taller, I wouldn't really mind. Either way, if we get male viera at all, I will be happy whether they are short or tall. I was very happy with the way Yoshi P described how male viera would look if implemented in the game. Judging by the way female viera look, I am confident the devs will do a fantastic job on the male model - if they really decide on doing it.

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Originally Posted by VyelChuChu

Oh it's outside of the forums that I'm seeing it too! Friends, discords, twitter etc. Also I didn't know male bunbuns were smaller irl! That's a pretty good reason, and I can definitely see wanting more cute males just like how I'd personally like wider and more fierce looking ladies!

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It's only in some species where male rabbits are smaller than female, it's not an across the board thing.

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Originally Posted by Senn

That's just anecdotal. I've seen plenty of people who would like a small male viera on the official forums and elsewhere - this is anecdotal as well. Neither of us know anything for certain.

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Oh sorry, I didn't mean that as an attack, I used 10 as an approximate number of the very active users I can see defending the shorter males on the forums, more than 5 less than 20, I know there are more (less active) users, the like count in the op espeaks for itself, but it's still a fact that the people with unknown preferences that asked for male viera (and probably are expecting the ones in the concept art that were shown alongside the current females to be implemented) utnumber by far the more active users asking for shorter male viera, a version that has not even been mentioned in any official statement, lore or concept art (feol aren't full viera and they are not shorter than famales, they are not even short, just shorter ears).

Besides, a short male with animal features is something we already have with male miqos, and doing this to give the au'ra a counterpath it's absurd because the au'ra sexual dysmorphism wasn't even a good idea to start with, and again would only lead to a miqote body type, nothing new, and if they are even shorter than male miqotes, we can't even call them viera...

On the other hand, i'm ok with an slider that goes under females min height but can get up to atleast the same max height as them, adding options is ok, limiting them is bad, that's the whole point of this campaign in favor of male viera and female hrothgar.

I know this is fantasy and all but I mentioned before, not every male is 6 to 7 feet tall. I would like a race to represent the short to lower average height male and if we are not going to get any more new race the male viera would be a great opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Renik

Oh sorry, I didn't mean that as an attack, I used 10 as an approximate number of the very active users I can see defending the shorter males on the forums, more than 5 less than 20, I know there are more (less active) users, the like count in the op espeaks for itself, but it's still a fact that the people with unknown preferences that asked for male viera (and probably are expecting the ones in the concept art that were shown alongside the current females to be implemented) utnumber by far the more active users asking for shorter male viera, a version that has not even been mentioned in any official statement, lore or concept art (feol aren't full viera and they are not shorter than famales, they are not even short, just shorter ears).

Besides, a short male with animal features is something we already have with male miqos, and doing this to give the au'ra a counterpath it's absurd because the au'ra sexual dysmorphism wasn't even a good idea to start with, and again would only lead to a miqote body type, nothing new, and if they are even shorter than male miqotes, we can't even call them viera...

On the other hand, i'm ok with an slider that goes under females min height but can get up to atleast the same max height as them, adding options is ok, limiting them is bad, that's the whole point of this campaign in favor of male viera and female hrothgar.

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https://66.media.tumblr.com/205dde13...27mgo1_400.jpg

They seem pretty short too me. Head sizes usually stay the same if your taller or shorter. So by this picture it is accurate to say that feol do seem shorter.

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Originally Posted by Umeikoai

https://66.media.tumblr.com/205dde13...27mgo1_400.jpg

They seem pretty short too me. Head sizes usually stay the same if your taller or shorter. So by this picture it is accurate to say that feol do seem shorter.

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That image is not canon, it's a mix of 2 diferent images... even if it was , it's about a head, just a difference between individuals... again, feol aren't vieras, please, don't counter a single part of a whole statement made for clarity of a previous one...