Housing restrictions not fair for individuals.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

And I agree that when they put in the housing relocation that the medium and large houses should've been limited to companies if it wasn't already, there's no reason for individuals to own medium and large houses except bragging rights and that's not a good reason at all.

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I grew out of my cottage about a month after I bought it. There are just items that are more suited for larger homes. Saying individual players shouldn't have large or medium houses is saying that a player shouldn't be allowed to have everything they want in their home. I've been able to lay out my new large house in a way I never could have in medium and definitely not a cottage.

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Originally Posted by Nerfworthy

Dude just....stop. Please.

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I will not stop voicing tremendous flaws & unfairness because you ask to, FC decorating? forget that everyone get their rooms anyway & if many had the "opportunity/option" to get more space "for them alone" i would not be surprised that they would do it. stay out of this, in other words go back to your cozy small house, while we are trying to get this game fair & square for everyone

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Originally Posted by Elamys

I've seen this sentiment expressed before and yet it continues to elude me - how does an FC benefit more from a medium or large plot than a small one? You can have all but I think one vendor type in a small plot (actually might be able to have all since the change). Crafting stations are useless past level 60 and only provide a miniscule bonus to CP. The two extra garden plots are usually not an FC wide thing. In fact, the things that an FC would presumably benefit more from by owning a medium or large house are the same benefits that an individual owner would have over a small.

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There are a few ways in which a FC gains more from a larger plot. First, larger plots are allowed more gardens. When you have an FC servicing more people, especially if those people don't own personal housing, then more gardening plots is a benefit. Crafting stations are something else you mentioned, and that is a definite benefit. The FC I help officiate is a medium and we can't place all the crafting stations. This is something newer players, or players new to crafting often find disappointing. Having limited crafting stations in a smaller personal house isn't as big of a deal since you don't need to stations at all once you get yourself leveled up, but an FC may need to help service a larger number of players all at different points in the game. the last is simply an issue of how many people are going to potentially be in the building/yard at once. Our FC has over 400 players, and if we even just had 10-12 on at once at the house, that would feel incredibly cramped, and the house might not get used as much as a place for players to hang out and socialize, but with a medium, the house can function more as that kind of space.

I will say that last part is probably the most important part. I can't say that I've ever had more than 4 people at once in my personal house, but will almost always see more than that at the FC house during house players are on and active.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

There are a few ways in which a FC gains more from a larger plot. First, larger plots are allowed more gardens. When you have an FC servicing more people, especially if those people don't own personal housing, then more gardening plots is a benefit. Crafting stations are something else you mentioned, and that is a definite benefit. The FC I help officiate is a medium and we can't place all the crafting stations. This is something newer players, or players new to crafting often find disappointing. Having limited crafting stations in a smaller personal house isn't as big of a deal since you don't need to stations at all once you get yourself leveled up, but an FC may need to help service a larger number of players all at different points in the game. the last is simply an issue of how many people are going to potentially be in the building/yard at once. Our FC has over 400 players, and if we even just had 10-12 on at once at the house, that would feel incredibly cramped, and the house might not get used as much as a place for players to hang out and socialize, but with a medium, the house can function more as that kind of space.

I will say that last part is probably the most important part. I can't say that I've ever had more than 4 people at once in my personal house, but will almost always see more than that at the FC house during house players are on and active.

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Gardens shouldnt be as little for small houses to begin with for cross breeding, in a realistic scenario, you could do that inside the house also, theres no plantboxes, crafting stations are a very little benefit, if you want xp you can gain it without , specially with squadrons system now giving xp scrolls (spirit bonding? bleh, i dont even want to start on that topic), i understand not wanting 400members fc in a small, but the dumb fact that theres different plots size & we cant adjust them as we want is there, theres no reasons to not allow EVERYONE to own a medium/large, blabla server limitation

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Originally Posted by Ruf

I will not stop voicing tremendous flaws & unfairness because you ask to, FC decorating? forget that everyone get their rooms anyway & if many had the "opportunity/option" to get more space "for them alone" i would not be surprised that they would do it. stay out of this, in other words go back to your cozy small house, while we are trying to get this game fair & square for everyone

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You're not going to get adjustable plot sizes. I think the option for more wards is a real possibility and perhaps the creation of instanced housing. We appear to be getting small, medium and large apartments and those might be a venue where one will be able to choose the size they want without having limited availability. It's not going to happen in neighborhoods. Those are fixed assets and won't be adjustable ever in my view.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You're not going to get adjustable plot sizes. I think the option for more wards is a real possibility and perhaps the creation of instanced housing. We appear to be getting small, medium and large apartments and those might be a venue where one will be able to choose the size they want without having limited availability. It's not going to happen in neighborhoods. Those are fixed assets and won't be adjustable ever in my view.

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Im fine with more wards, so long as individuals get their fair shot at mediums & larges

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Originally Posted by Ruf

Im fine with more wards, so long as individuals get their fair shot at mediums & larges

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I'm all for everyone having the option to get the size house they want. I think the idea of FC first this go around wasn't bad although I think relocations shouldn't have been allowed until privates were open as well. I suppose they wanted to reduce the possible load on the servers but the relocations did get to first pick. I'm somewhat surprised they haven't announced a date for opening housing to everyone yet.

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Originally Posted by k99

lol Isn't marriage about compromise? Imagine if every married couple had to get two homes because they couldn't share. Maybe SE should add some marriage counselling content in the next patch to help address these first world housing problems.

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It isn't really fair to treat couples as a single unit anyway. Just because some people are in a relationship doesn't mean they can't want their own personal house.

People like to decorate and they like to decorate how they want to and if two people in a relationship would rather design their own houses separately then I don't see why that is an issue. They are both paying for separate accounts.

Not to say some compromise wouldn't help if one person is stuck without a house, but honestly...comparing it to real life homes lol you are being ridiculous. It's a video game and everyone has fun in different ways...even couples.

Just because some players are in relationships doesn't mean they are tied at the hip to their spouse and have to share everything and do everything together all the time. People like their own space too. They own separate accounts and are paying customers....it's kind of ridiculous to be like "Oh? You have a wife/girlfriend?...Nah you can't own a personal house you have to share hers" or vice versa...

You can't punish people just because they have a significant other. If they want a personal house to decorate alone then they have that right whether they are in a relationship or not since they are still a paying customer paying the same sub as everyone else.

Anybody know when it’s gettiny lifted? I finally have enough to get a small plot and I would like to buy one

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Originally Posted by Miste

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You aren't the first person to snap back with something about real life comparisons. I do not really appreciate you putting words in my mouth (the nuance of in-game content vs. actual real marriage counselling). It still holds that if every married couple in-game had to get a house for themselves it would effectively halve the number of available homes, causing much more shortage of available plots.

But I think your response is a perfect reflection of the way people get unnecessarily vicious over, as you noted, a game. I suppose if we had to highlight one subject, wouldn't love still be the same in or out of game? ;-)