[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

You're such a troll lol. Animation have nothing to do with it - If there's nothing there you can't utilize it; FFXIV's water is a bitmap then empty space, there's nothing there, hence in her example which compared FFX to FFXIV, if you're going to make a swimming mechanic you need something there - FFX had Blitzball and some Underwater boss fights; FFXIV has nothing but a bitmap.

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And adding props and mobs in the underwater areas is impossible.

No wait, it's not, it's pretty easy.

That and a shader that simulates underwater visual distortion and you've got bioshock style underwater areas.


I agree, for a developer he is too shortsighted lol.


And yes to jumping, anything that can be later used for more engaging fights is welcome.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how badly designed XIV is - Then people want underwater content? You do know that AO is horribly bugged, correct? That means if they were to "add a shader that simulated underwater distortion" it would do nothing but kill your FPS and thus render it unplayable while underwater for many.

AO is a basic shading technique and it's horribly bugged.

oooh yeah! bitmap eating my legs

http://images.wwe.in.th/uploads/1306065418.jpg

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Originally Posted by Evangela

oooh yeah! bitmap eating my legs

http://images.wwe.in.th/uploads/1306065418.jpg

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You all will never walk again :(

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I demand one of these choices

1. Move it back to high priority task

or

2. Just tell me in the next letter... Will you ever implement jumping or not?


It might be silly but their answer is important

if they can't make a decision about this, I'll see the future of this game

while another big name MMOs coming out this year with a lot of features and contents if SE still bother themselves, thinking about they should add jumping or not and need half a year to decide... this game not gonna go anywhere else

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Lol, I was trying to resist replying to this thread because we all know it's not going anywhere. But my lord, this has to be the most childish thing I've ever seen someone post on these forums. "Give me what I want or I quit." That's the mentality of a spoiled 5 year old. Do you REALLY believe that not adding jump will doom this game??

Seriously, if you believe that jump is more important than, say, a complete battle system overhaul, then perhaps it's your priorities that are completely out of whack, not SE's. There's SO many MMOs out there with jump already, and content designed around it. I'm sure you'd have much more fun with them. Not having jump is one of the better "being different" approaches they took with this game IMO.

And you do realize how long it would take for them to implement jumping and swimming content? They would have to rework the whole foundation all over again. Surely even you could see that the current battle system, and likely the incoming one, would not work with jumping. I was fine waiting this long for the changes they're doing now. But to do it all over again for jump? No thanks.

If it's that important to you, there's plenty of other games that you might find more suitable for your tastes. But for FFXIV, I'm glad they've decided to focus on much more important issues.

LOL, now mr. game developer is using the FPS excuse.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how badly designed XIV is - Then people want underwater content? You do know that AO is horribly bugged, correct? That means if they were to "add a shader that simulated underwater distortion" it would do nothing but kill your FPS and thus render it unplayable while underwater for many.

AO is a basic shading technique and it's horribly bugged.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

LOL, now mr. game developer is using the FPS excuse.

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You don't even play the game lol, anyone who does knows AO kills your FPS and if they can't even get a basic shading technique how do you expect them to get "underwater" distortion to not kill your PC?

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Originally Posted by Ilean

LOL, now mr. game developer is using the FPS excuse.

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Ile[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]

You wrote:

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That and a shader that simulates underwater visual distortion and you've got bioshock style underwater areas.

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You do know Ambient Occ is a fairly basic shading technique right? You also know that if you cut it on it will take off 50% of your FPS no matter how good your rig is. So you expect them to get something like this to be bug free when the most basic of options is bugged to holy hell?

Then again, you don't even play the game or you'd know that it's universally accepted the graphics in this game is bugged to ***.

AO is not bugged, but unoptimized. It gets applied to the whole world and that kills performance. Just like Player Characters tax the engine the same if they are in front of you or at the max draw distance.

But here is a shocker for you: Water reflections are a shader too and I don't see it killing my performance.

You guys should probably stop with the "I am a developer", "I know coding" thing, you obviously lack the most basic technical knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

AO is not bugged

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It's bugged. Unoptimized AO doesn't kill your FPS by up to 50%, sometimes more if your rig isn't up to par. I've played games with unoptimized AO and that's just not properly shading the areas it should, not killing my FPS.

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But here is a shocker for you: Water reflections are a shader too and I don't see it killing my performance.

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Here's a shocker for you:

So is Bloom.

Know what else is a shocker?

There's varying levels of what a shader does. Some require more performance than others. You speak of people not knowing basic knowledge, you seem to forget that different shaders are manipulated through different means.