Well, most of times, regardless of how much you want to help, when you ask "Does anyone need a few pointers ?" or "Has everybody read the strat / read a guide ? "
The only answer you get is silence.
Maybe because of language issues, the fear of being kicked, the fear of being blamed for a wipe, or for the love of "going blind", I can't tell.
Sometimes though, after a first wipe on mechanics, a smart guy will ask "anyone care to explain why we wiped". Sure bro...
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10-23-2015, 10:53 PMcgbspender
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10-23-2015, 11:26 PMMalicewolf
Well, in this case, I just meant when you see obvious flaws that caused the wipe. Don't try to tell them during the fight because that'll only hinder you from doing the best you can. But if you wipe, take note and kindly inform them of what they can do to improve. Like saying "Hey ____, I noticed we kept getting hit by each others lightning circles. Try to keep a bit further from other players during the fight so we don't get double damage" or "Hey, as a heads up, if you are standing in water when thunderstorm is cast, it hurts more."
Cause based on the description of the poster, it really seems like the players simply had no clue what they were doing and what to avoid. -
10-23-2015, 11:55 PMNekoteeMost of the time if this question pop... I just sigh and carefuly list EVERY error i saw including mine if I did...Quote:
Originally Posted by cgbspender
Last time i did was on a Turn 9 of Bahamut
Because yes... We might have lv60 character... But if people doesn't have a clue of the strat it's a wipe...
Not doing the mechanics is deadly lv60 or not... (Unlike T6, T7 and T8 where you just burn the boss)
Most epic move... The whm use fluid aura to push the red golem in the blue one, while the blue attract the green one who was not far enough...
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10-24-2015, 12:13 AMSida
Sometimes the "stop and discuss" doesn't work. And this was Ifrit normal I was tanking at the time. When starting, I just say "kill the nail" as I often say, regardless of the circumstances. Even for those who know, it comes as a sort of joke. Wipe, because lancer didn't hit nail at all. Ok, me and mage both tell in more complete sentence "please kill the nail when it appears". Wipe, the lancer failed to regard it at all. I start giving a bit more throu out explanation calling the lancer out by name, the lancer pulls. At that point I just tell the healer and mage to make sure they stay on the sides because I -will- turn iffy to go kill the nail myself.
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10-24-2015, 03:06 AMLunaxiaHonestly, this is the most common cause of wiping next to tank derps. Even after saying "don't overlap lightning circles!" a hundred times, they still run in my direction when it hits. I'm a healer, I'm squishy enough as it is without your kamikazeing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilite
I always give/ gave advice, it's just very rare to come across players who a) actually take it in and b) use it effectively (and as someone else mentioned, sometimes there's the language barrier.) Most of the time it's just ignored, or taken to the extreme - e.g. players who kept running away from Chaos'd party members going the other way and crowding around targets, usually resulting in a KO for both players, etc. And then on the rare occasions it actually goes in, we end up failing because of the tanks. orzQuote:
Originally Posted by Malicewolf
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10-24-2015, 03:36 AMTwilite
Well today I'm the reason for my own horror stories(about 4 of them) has discouraged me a bit with running the vault as healer for the first time, despite knowing the last boss like a book.
The most painful to me was when mobs did some lucky crits on the tank, JUST AFTER I switched to cleric stance, and she dropped low really quick..so I had to prey those heals would hold her over til I was able to turn the damn thing off.
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10-24-2015, 04:16 AMLunaxiaDon't beat yourself up about it, these things just happen sometimes. If I tortured myself over every time someone KO'd because I accidentally hit CS too soon/ late, I'd never be able to play the game. :p I wiped a whole party once because I'd gone from NM to HM and didn't realise CSing was a no no for this group. Then one time as a tank, I was put with a healer who liked to play "how low can you go" with my HP and I must have wiped about five times. You shouldn't let a few honest mistakes bother you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilite
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10-24-2015, 05:10 AMTwilite
Actually, I met a healer like that in Neverfractal(harhar) yesterday. Me and the SMN were riding 10% HP for that last 5% of the boss HP. And I have had a healer in dread gear let me die to an easy pull because all she wanted to do was dps and figured my undergear non-synced ass could Bloodbath/IB my way to survival. Oh I do take solace that as healer my groups don't have to put up with those kinds.
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10-24-2015, 06:50 AMFevelle
I was reading your posts about The Vault and it made me remember my first time there. I had seen a video and all, but something wasn't right, we wiped 3 times on last boss before clearing, that chain thing killing someone every now and then, it was a shame. I remember the tank saying "That's sad" on the party chat after the second wipe. I stopped playing for 3 days after that and only returned because my friend asked me to, and yet I felt like s**t. I don't think I'm a good healer (to be honest I think I'm an average to mediocre healer), but I don't let my tanks die or my party wipe this easily, I can count on my fingers the times we wiped because I did something wrong on my job... I still hate that place nowadays though I don't have problems anymore on any boss there.
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10-24-2015, 07:02 AMAlisa180
I just came out of a run of Brayflox's Longstop with a godawful tank while leveling AST. He was as squishy as hell. As in 'I barely have time to Draw' and 'The DPS are less squishy then you!' We muddled through anyway, but the final straw came when we reached the last boss. The tank refused to move Altair out of the poison pools. Then, on the way back, he pulled without waiting up for me (I was AFK for a minute 'cause my phone rang) resulting in another wipe. For the first time *ever*, I initiated a vote kick, which promptly went through.
On that note, however, the SMN in the party was several kinds of awesome. He helped with the healing after the tank died on four different pulls before the last boss. And when we noted how we could be waiting for a replacement tank for a while, I proposed he try having Titan tank, using Place to move Altair, since at this point the Egi would be a better tank then the one we just dismissed. We gave it a shot, and while I screwed up towards the end causing Titan to die and leaving the NIN to tank, we still managed to down the boss. I still can't believe it worked. The SMN earned the comm, needless to say.
A DRK actually came in while we were fighting, and the NIN told her to just sit back and relax. She earned a good laugh from the whole situation.