The Monk Temple

I've got to ask. How do people generally feel about Arm of the Destroyer? My only experience with it was in Beta (don't currently own the game) where I found little to no use for it.

Has anyone managed to bring out some of its potential yet?

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Originally Posted by Hoffburger

Currently deciding between dragoon and monk (will get both classes relatively high regardless due to mantra and blood for blood being really good cross class abilities). My questions are mainly if monk has a bunch of off GCD abilities like dragoon. Dragoons get a ton of abilities that do high damage that aren't on the GCD that they can weave into their rotation. Do monks get something similar?

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Steel Peak and Howling Fist. One is a strong stun, the other a strong line AoE. Both off GCD.

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Originally Posted by Vensaval

I've got to ask. How do people generally feel about Arm of the Destroyer? My only experience with it was in Beta (don't currently own the game) where I found little to no use for it.

Has anyone managed to bring out some of its potential yet?

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It's an AoE ability. If you are hitting 4 or more targets you are doing more effective DPS than most of your other oppo form skills. The silence might be useful as well for mobs that are affected by it but as a on-demand interrupt it's useless considering its on the GCD and requires you to be oppo form.
It's also handy for tagging mobs in fates since you don't need to target a mob, just spam this as they are spawning in.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Steel Peak and Howling Fist. One is a strong stun, the other a strong line AoE. Both off GCD.

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Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

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Originally Posted by Hoffburger

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

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yeah you missed something a mong get nerly permanent 36% more dmg and the enemy 10% lesser resistence + he can take dragoons eye for eye so he gain 56% dmg 15% more speed and he crits with nearly every hit

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Originally Posted by Geshtar

yeah you missed something a mong get nerly permanent 36% more dmg and the enemy 10% lesser resistence + he can take dragoons eye for eye so he gain 56% dmg 15% more speed and he crits with nearly every hit

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Right, but Dragoons get a damage buff and debuff as well, so a Monk really only get a constant +26% more than Dragoons, which is still significant, but from what I've seen, not enough to overcome the low potency of Monk weapons. I could be wrong though, I might be underestimating the 15% attack speed. Monks are undeniably the best for Limit Breaks though due to damage buff stacking unless Final Heaven does less base damage than Omnislash.

yeah you underrestimate the speed i have a attack speed of 2,09 at my skills and i got not even attack speed gear my crits are 200(every hit of this is a crit after i use my full combo one time) on my normal spell (130potency) + 70(110 crit) auto attack // 220 true strike(150 potancy) 70(110 crit) auto attack// 280 snap punch (180 potency) + 70(110 auto attack) yep with every skill comes an auto attack and after the forth it cames between the skills because my auto attack ist faster too there is demolich and hand of death i dont know but i think they tick every 2 secs with 50 together so to my auto attack of 70-110 comes 50 dot dmg im lvl 42 with crap gear ^^ dragoons on my lvl crit for 300+- with the 3rd combo skill but they are much slower , somethimes i crit with 5 to 8 skills and autohits in a row but that isn`t good for me because i get aggro :P

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Originally Posted by Hoffburger

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

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Actually DRG is less DPS then Monk but quite a margin. Dragoon offers burst damage. he doesn't need to build momentum, but when monk pulls momentum no one can reach his single target dps.

Tha0'ts what you get for playing easy mode.

PS. At 50 Monk GCD is less then 1 second <:D

Can we like...not insult other classes on these forums, please? I'd prefer to keep the discussions civil and on topic. Different classes appeal to different people, nothing "easy mode" about that :)

Hi everyone, i've read like what, 15pages of this topic and it has been a great help, thank you all.
I've still got one question. I figured that we have to get that hitcap and all, but how?

I mean, do we have to use attributes points anywhere else than in Strength?

I could sum up my question : which stat do we have to get ? Strength for sure, and?