Sorry, but Content deal finder again.....

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Aside from Dungeons, those 3 things SHOULD be instanced. There are certain things that just won't work at all in an open-world setting. And saying that the leve mobs are Instanced.. While that is true, Guildleves itself are Not instanced, you have to go through open-world to get to those leve mobs, and they give you privacy so no one can interfere.

These few people that are claiming 2.0 or the current version is a Instanced friendly game, are really out of it.. like seriously.

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Why? I hated fighting other LS's for goodies in dungeons in FFXI. All I see coming from this is negativity towards others in the community and some developing methods to bot claims. At least making the dungeons instanced, you don't have to deal with that crap. You can call the competition fun if you like, I call it inconvenient and not necessary.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Why? I hated fighting other LS's for goodies in dungeons in FFXI. All I see coming from this is negativity towards others in the community and some developing methods to bot claims. At least making the dungeons instanced, you don't have to deal with that crap. You can call the competition fun if you like, I call it inconvenient and not necessary.

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That doesnt stop you from fighting mobs in strong holds or other non dungeon... come on now, just make the whole game lobby based with that logic

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Why? I hated fighting other LS's for goodies in dungeons in FFXI. All I see coming from this is negativity towards others in the community and some developing methods to bot claims. At least making the dungeons instanced, you don't have to deal with that crap. You can call the competition fun if you like, I call it inconvenient and not necessary.

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hehe, I ment Duneons can be half non-instanced, and half Instanced, I don't mind the setup as we have it now, but I do agree Dungeons should be Instanced though. But I do like the Open world Dungeons, so that you can see random people pop in there for whatever reason :P :D

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Originally Posted by Rokien

We can only prepare for the worst, that is what I'm doing./

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What is the worst that happens? A few people getting butt hurt over something that there is nothing wrong with? Should stop fighting a lost cause, unless you can come up with a mighty persuasive essay on why everything you don't like and are fundamentals of 2.0 should be changed. Try to persuade the developers that they need to delay 2.0 longer to meet your needs. This isn't a personal attack, it is looking at this realistically, they are not going to change what they are doing and putting a ton of money on because the extreme minority of the community such as yourself is not happy with some of their ideas.

Can either deal with it, or you can actually do something productive by taking what is definitely going to happen, and find ways to make it better. So far, almost all the ideas I have seen for 2.0 have been really good and will definitely give it the modern day MMO standards, possibly much better than the standards.

Why don't you see how it plays out, then criticize it.

Oh yes how you guys forget about the classic FFXI era where whoever had the best bot won everything. You talk about ruining the community how about the time where every LS pretty much hated eachother. People spending $3000 on claim bots. MPK wars at Fafnir, Tiamat, heck even in sky over Despot. People talk trash when they claimed that Fafnir. It wasn't a good server community back then.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

hehe, I ment Duneons can be half non-instanced, and half Instanced, I don't mind the setup as we have it now, but I do agree Dungeons should be Instanced though. But I do like the Open world Dungeons, so that you can see random people pop in there for whatever reason :P :D

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I would be okay with that. I wouldn't mind if some dungeons were set up like that, but I would want NM fights to be instanced or forced popped under certain condition. I loved Sky and Sea, but I hated fighting other LS's, especially botters over mobs just to get items to pop the god NM's.

Perhaps in major end game areas, SE could meet in the middle with that.

EDIT: But I still believe smaller dungeons like Cutter's Cry and Aurum Vale should be instanced, but major end game areas should be a mix of both.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Oh yes how you guys forget about the classic FFXI era where whoever had the best bot won everything. You talk about ruining the community how about the time where every LS pretty much hated eachother. People spending $3000 on claim bots. MPK wars at Fafnir, Tiamat, heck even in sky over Despot. People talk trash when they claimed that Fafnir. It wasn't a good server community back then.

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I blame SE for letting it happen, and the community for being poor sports.

This time around they need to crack down on bots hard core when 2.0 comes out.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Oh yes how you guys forget about the classic FFXI era where whoever had the best bot won everything.

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I love when people pretend FFXI ended at Zillart. It's not like we had tons of other areas that dropped amazing if not better gear without NM camping.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I would be okay with that. I wouldn't mind if some dungeons were set up like that, but I would want NM fights to be instanced or forced popped under certain condition. I loved Sky and Sea, but I hated fighting other LS's, especially botters over mobs just to get items to pop the god NM's.

Perhaps in major end game areas, SE could meet in the middle with that.

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Open-world NMs for the low level stuff, then Forced popped or Instanced NMs for the Uber and strong end-gear.. that way everyone can have the slice of the NM kill and possibly a reward from it. FFXI was a great game, but one of the things I didn't like was that I couldn't get Relic gear etc etc, because you needed to be in a Fuctional working LS to get them or else you lose out, and not only that but some NMs you could get sometimes because the other players get to them first, then you have to wait for 21+hrs to even try it again.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I love when people pretend FFXI ended at Zillart. It's not like we had tons of other areas that dropped amazing if not better gear without NM camping.

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Yea and all those were instanced, Einherjar, Salvage, Nyzul, Assults. But you guys seem to be on the I hate instances bandwagon.