New glamour dress on a male (art)

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Originally Posted by Galdous

No one is holding you back and the only reason you want dresses on men is because people think bringing politics into a game is to troll people who play a game to get away from real life? That is the only thing I can come up with when the solution is already there in being able to create both male and female characters.

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I HAVE male and female characters, and I want this in game. Not because of a political agenda but because of the fun roleplay possibilities and because I like being able to see a wide variety of individuals and styles and mixing and matching more feminine pieces with more masculine pieces could come to epic effect. I want this for the same reason I want more emotes - to allow more diversity of expression.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

accuse people of being sexist simply for having their opinions.

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Opinions can be sexist in nature. Simply being an opinion doesn't disqualify something from being sexist.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Opinions can be sexist in nature. Simply being an opinion doesn't disqualify something from being sexist.

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I said accuse people of being sexist. Do learn to read. There's been plenty of that in this thread, and it's abhorrent.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Actually, you're not. Most of this thread has been about directly converting female equipment to fit males, not making their own male version of it. Had it been the latter, I'd have happily added my support. Instead what people are doing is using this argument to attack other people who don't agree with their opinions. Much like the following quote.

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My comment was directed to someone very specific. I think some of their posts may have been removed.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I said accuse people of being sexist. Do learn to read. There's been plenty of that in this thread, and it's abhorrent.

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Yes I read, did you read? People are free to accuse someone of being sexist when they display sexist opinions.

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Originally Posted by eagledorf

I posted it in your JP thread, but traditionally belly dancers weren't only female and their modern counterparts wear outfits not dissimilar to this

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Can you rehost that image? It requires you to sign in or subscribe to see it.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

People are free to accuse someone of being sexist when they display sexist opinions.

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No, they're not. It's called jumping to conclusions, and it's the very reason this thread has become so poisonous. So, do everyone a favour and stop encouraging this behavior. Aside from being against the ToS, it's just downright rude.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

No, they're not. It's called jumping to conclusions, and it's the very reason this thread has become so poisonous. So, do everyone a favour and stop encouraging this behavior. Aside from being against the ToS, it's just downright rude.

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We are at an impasse.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

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We've had someone call men who wear dresses degenerates and you've decided to get on peoples cases for calling out sexism or bigoted behavior?

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Originally Posted by Samcaesar

We've had someone call men who wear dresses degenerates and you've decided to get on peoples cases for calling out sexism or bigoted behavior?

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People honestly can't read between the lines these days. If I need to spell out every single little detail, we'd be here all week.

No, it's not on that people call others degenerates. Equally, it's not on that people are using this argument as a weapon to attack others on personal level. If people honestly want this thread to be taken seriously, then they need to act the part. With maturity, not with anger. For me, this is a topic close to the knuckle for several reasons which I wont enter into. Suffice to say, I'm on the side of those who want more gender equality.

Those who throw out insults is letting their side down and only turning this whole argument farcical. The more we can keep things civil on BOTH sides, the more constructive this thread will become. Trying to wield the 'sword of justice' and strike down a post you deem sexist is just as bad as those who claim crossdressing is degenerate.