Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by pompey_dan

I would be careful doing that, SSD over the red area once n insta died as it blew up while I was mid air, the moves are annoying in that they slide you across the floor instead of teleporting you to the position.

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No, I didn't take note of that in the text above the link...

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Originally Posted by ChaozK

So am i wrong in assuming that the upcoming dagger class will most likely be dealing piercing dmg? If so, DRG Disembowel-support just became even sexier.

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I get the feeling it will be slashing damage for some reason...Piercing would be awesome, but I'm not keeping my hopes up yet.

Well I just got my atma weapon. Working on the crit book for now. I wonder when next phase for the relic upgrade what stat will it have. I hope they let us add another type of stat for it.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

I get the feeling it will be slashing damage for some reason...

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Yea, knives are blades so slashing makes more sense I think.. Also there isn't a slashing dps class vs 2 piercing dps.. Yay Storm's Eye? Lol

The gun class could be piercing also, hopefully at least one of them is lol

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Originally Posted by pompey_dan

The gun class could be piercing also, hopefully at least one of them is lol

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Yea guns are usually piercing. What would be sweet is if you could equip different types of ammo for different damage type. Could just equip as a secondary like a shield, then change to blunt/piercing/elemental/etc by switching ammo. Will be interesting to see what they do.

Back on the topic of dragoon, I finally got to run T5 on dragoon last night. I've been tanking it but one of the guys we've been running with wanted to try solo tanking so I switched between smn and drg. Which leads me to ask - what is the best way for melee to handle the DKs? From what I've read they are supposed to run away as the DK drops down (in case they get stunned), then maintain DoTs on Twin while burning DKs.. It doesn't seem like there is enough time to do much to Twin between profusion and first DK, should drg just HT-Phleb on Twin > Run > IDC-Phleb the DK? Any suggestions are appreciated :D

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Back on the topic of dragoon, I finally got to run T5 on dragoon last night. I've been tanking it but one of the guys we've been running with wanted to try solo tanking so I switched between smn and drg. Which leads me to ask - what is the best way for melee to handle the DKs? From what I've read they are supposed to run away as the DK drops down (in case they get stunned), then maintain DoTs on Twin while burning DKs.. It doesn't seem like there is enough time to do much to Twin between profusion and first DK, should drg just HT-Phleb on Twin > Run > IDC-Phleb the DK? Any suggestions are appreciated :D

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Since you were solo-tanking, what was the group comp? When I join a solo-tank party, there's always just 1 melee (usually me, if not its because I'm healing), and I just sit at #2 in aggro and don't worry about Dreads (then become the Hatch eater...my poor DPS :( ). If you two-tank it, you have to run away whenever the Dreads pop.

I try to get at least HT, Phlem and ID on Twin before the Dread pops that first time (solo-tanking, two-tanking I'm not near Twin until after the Dread gets a target for safety, so its start from scratch there), then Dis, CT, TTT the Dread and it *should* be dead by then. Do not stun it unless its your job to do so.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Since you were solo-tanking, what was the group comp? When I join a solo-tank party, there's always just 1 melee (usually me, if not its because I'm healing), and I just sit at #2 in aggro and don't worry about Dreads (then become the Hatch eater...my poor DPS :( ). If you two-tank it, you have to run away whenever the Dreads pop.

I try to get at least HT, Phlem and ID on Twin before the Dread pops that first time (solo-tanking, two-tanking I'm not near Twin until after the Dread gets a target for safety, so its start from scratch there), then Dis, CT, TTT the Dread and it *should* be dead by then. Do not stun it unless its your job to do so.

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Well I ran a couple times on SMN and a couple times on DRG. Party comp was PLD, SCH, WHM, BRD, BLM, DRG, SMN, then me either on SMN or DRG. We only got to DKs while I was on SMN, so I didn't get to mess with them on DRG. Yea I was #2 for most of the fight - but DKs don't target #2 either? I thought that was mainly for conflag/fireballs. Good to know!

Thanks for the tips. I don't know how many chances I'll get to run on DRG but I mainly wanted to know so I can help our regular dragoon (and because I just like to know everything possible :D)

Well t6 no briar strat was a success..was maintaining 345 every run we did last night ^.^

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Originally Posted by RachaelMarie22

Well t6 no briar strat was a success..was maintaining 345 every run we did last night ^.^

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For your gear and that fight, that number seems slightly.... inflated. I mean I get close to 400 but my gear is significantly higher. That's barring I don't get like many chains if any >.>;

On a dummy though... over 400 easy during a 3min trial.

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Originally Posted by Mardel

For your gear and that fight, that number seems slightly.... inflated. I mean I get close to 400 but my gear is significantly higher. That's barring I don't get like many chains if any >.>;

On a dummy though... over 400 easy during a 3min trial.

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I got 363 on a dummy before I went in with 450 in the burst phase...was glued to Raf majority of the fight going full HAM so I don't see why my number would be inflated..in the non briar strat with minimal movement during vines (heal through it if ya want) you can keep up rotation with no breaks.

The only reason why I was doing terrible before was because i was saving cooldowns and that when I really didnt need to. If the regular rotation is kept up the whole time its all gravy

Edit: i prefer comparing stats to gear