It's how everyone raided in WoW I'll probably do the same stuff here if for nothing more than meter wankery. This is assuming I even bother with end game.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildgalax
My argument has plenty of substance mainly, "You are using the exact arguments crappy DPS use to defend their lack of fight knowledge", that's all there is to it. You lost the right to blame someone for being unprepared and needing carried the second you started defending being unprepared. The spell has good utility for a reasonably small cost. It sure seems to beat the hell out of Blood for Blood or Mercy Stroke, but I'm farming both of them out.
If you had a few wipes at 1% yeah you might see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skotie
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12-30-2013, 02:57 PMWorm
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12-30-2013, 03:05 PMThunderz
ppl thinking Swiftcast on WHM is only good for rez are bad and should feel bad
The ability has so much utilities and such a low CD that you can use it for nearly all your spells in a Oh shi- moment
Tank getting smashed Cure 2 + Swiftcast Cure 2. Top him up
Party taking some srs aoe dmg Swiftcast that Medica!
High movement fight, dodging something and someone needs a heal. Swiftcast that B
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12-30-2013, 03:08 PMSummonerSenah
I don't call out people on jobs I'm not familiar with, but if I see a SMN or BLM not using their cross class skills, I will bring it up as a suggestion. Raging Strikes for 20% extra damage, for example. In tougher fights that extra DPS is going to make me more appealing than a BLM or SMN without it.
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12-30-2013, 03:11 PMRochetm
And again still ignoring the world/server firsts... those guys do suck.
My guess is if you think swiftcast isn't important you also think Eye for an Eye isn't either... AmIrite? Iamrite... -
12-30-2013, 03:19 PMDoo
I'm surprised so many players don't have swiftcast. It's such an important ability for healers.
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12-30-2013, 03:33 PMwildgalaxI havnt actually made that an argument of mine i just stated the fallacy of players that choose to blame healers for not using swiftcast. So i dont know why you are twisting this further i never made anything my right, if anyone is doing that its you. Ive stated that it is my opinion that swiftcast is not mandatory as a skill to have, which is from personal experience. and idk why you are bringing wow into this i havnt raided there so cant tell you my experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Worm
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12-30-2013, 03:37 PMDooYou don't think a skill that can raise a party member up quickly and make any ability instant cast mandatory? I think it pretty close to mandatory if your ls/fc does any serious content.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildgalax
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12-30-2013, 03:38 PMJyoeru
Hello.
As a main WHM who has downed a lot of content, I formally declare that you do not need swiftcast to be good. You're not hurting your team by not having it. But, you should get it at some point to (a) shut the elitists up, and (b) to have it for its benefits for those times you can benefit from it.
If your party is failing to move on in something, it has absolutely nothing to do with you not having swiftcast. There are no game mechanics for which this is a required skill. In fact, chances are if you have to use it, it's because someone (or several someones) in your party messed up. If everyone learned to perform the main function of their classes well, and if everyone avoids unnecessary damage, then the party wins.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If people are dying in your party, it's because you aren't healing well enough, or they are doing something terribly wrong.
If you DO have swiftcast, then good for you. If you don't, just plan to get it at some point. But swiftcast doesn't make you a good healer like a +1 doesn't make anyone a good player.
Arguments about food and extra buffs and min/maxed gear are null because this game is not balanced around people having the best of everything. I was doing a Garuda yesterday and MT was saying we were failing because people didn't have food buffs. Meh. It's just a WOW elitism (perhaps any MMO) in which people feel insecure about their own abilities to play a game without every possible buff and strategy made for them. That's not playing a game. That's emulating someone else's success, and making the game as easy as possible so you can pass the content without having to answer to its mechanics.
Until we have mechanics like a guaranteed kill mechanic in a fight, swiftcast is just not as great as people like to make it out to be. Use it at the "wrong" time, and there is no benefit. Add to this argument how you have to babysit a carcass, and rezzing in any battle is more of a detriment than it is a benefit.
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12-30-2013, 03:47 PMAmyasHonestly, its totally understandable for people trying out healing for the first few times. Its sad to see though so many people so adamantly against playing their own main class to it's fullest. As a War, should I not pick up provoke and flash then? Even though it makes my tanking ability go up by 110%?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
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12-30-2013, 03:49 PMwildgalaxMost times ive downed content people havnt died, if they did even without swiftcast i could manage a raise. Most times due to res the dps check requirements havnt been met either way. At the end if a stupid mistake happened and we cant recover nothing stops us from trying again and mastering the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo