SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

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Originally Posted by A_Hortensia

Hey, the question was: if this system was implemented, how much GIL (FFXIV currency) would your 10-15 dollars be worth.
You replied with the currency of a game they didn't play. Obviously this person is going to be ignorant of the currency/value of an MMO they didn't play. Get real, and keep it classy.

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Actually the question was asked to me, and I did reply here in gil as requested.

And was promptly ignored.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

I really don't understand why it is hard to grasp this concept:

You buy the item with money. $15 or so.

You use that item to activate the account, leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

SE makes no money, and thus, the cycle continues. At least, this is my understanding of it. Even if the item was unique and not tradable.

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

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I think every stone that this topic has to offer was turned and discussed thoroughly.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

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Im still not on board with doing this, but your math is a bit off. you may be purchasing the item from a player with gil, but where did they purchase it? with dollars. the cycle would not be broken as the crysta is still payed initially with real money.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

SE, please implement this so I can laugh at every idiot who believes they have the solution for RMT and know better than you do after having combated RMT yourselves for over a decade. Thank you.

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Translation of the above: "My arguments have been demolished, I don't know how to argue further. Therefore, I will insult my opposition."

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Translation of the above: "My arguments have been demolished, I don't know how to argue further. Therefore, I will insult my opposition."

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Nope, I really hope they do so that people who create threads suggesting they add something just to have an argument rather than caring a single bit about whether it's added or not can whine and cry when they do add it because they don't do it the way you wanted them to, which was actually not at all. My argument is perfectly valid, you just choose to ignore it because you don't like it.

That you think this will in any way change or get rid of RMT shows how little you understand why and how they make money. RMT don't care whether making money is easy or not, and they will continue to exist whether or not this system is added.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Translation of the above: "My arguments have been demolished, I don't know how to argue further. Therefore, I will insult my opposition."

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This debate is a bit one sided. Not because one side is more right or wrong. I agree with everyone who doesn't support this system but actually understands what they're commenting on. Sadly the majority don't get it and when they have nothing else to add, they call you a jerk, or like someone earlier said, "you disagree with me! I'm leaving!"

Nuru: What you posted was accurate except for the fact that SE is going to make money. It just won't be your money. It'll be someone else's money. Someone else will buy the subscription, and sell that subscription to you for gil. Technically, SE is going to be making the same amount of money regardless, except the person who spent the USD is getting extra in-game gil out of the whole deal. Kind of/sort of makes you and and guy you bought the item from RMT in the sense that you just spent gil on USD, and they just spent USD on gil.

Hopefully that's clear.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

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I agree with this big time. There's no reason for them to change how they do things, when their current model made them a huge amount of success from FFXI. I'm certain they want to replicate that model and success with FFXIV.

And then my personal beliefs, which I don't want to be contested.. I'm just sharing:

FFXIV should not be free to play for anyone. Even if the money is coming from somewhere/someone else.

By playing and subscribing to the game service, you should be proud with your decision to enjoy this high caliber product, while supporting the hard-working high caliber staff and company. Your own money should speak for you, not somebody else's. Be part of the community and let everyone be equals as customers.

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Originally Posted by GodseijuroHiko

This debate is a bit one sided.
they call you a jerk,

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It seemed like you being being a jerk, and it has nothing to do with the debate.
I just wanted to call you out if you were intentionally trying to be a jerk. Not insulting you~
Please forgive me. ._.

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Originally Posted by A_Hortensia

Nuru: What you posted was accurate except for the fact that SE is going to make money. It just won't be your money. It'll be someone else's money. Someone else will buy the subscription, and sell that subscription to you for gil. Technically, SE is going to be making the same amount of money regardless, except the person who spent the USD is getting extra in-game gil out of the whole deal. Kind of/sort of makes you and and guy you bought the item from RMT in the sense that you just spent gil on USD, and they just spent USD on gil.

Hopefully that's clear.



I agree with this big time. There's no reason for them to change how they do things, when their current model made them a huge amount of success from FFXI. I'm certain they want to replicate that model and success with FFXIV.

And then my personal beliefs, which I don't want to be contested.. I'm just sharing:

FFXIV should not be free to play for anyone. Even if the money is coming from somewhere/someone else.

By playing and subscribing to the game service, you should be proud with your decision to enjoy this high caliber product, while supporting the hard-working high caliber staff and company. Your own money should speak for you, not somebody else's. Be part of the community and let everyone be equals as customers.

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I agree with that also that it isn't something that is needed anytime soon.

I made a post earlier about people being elitist about FFXIV, or keeping it "pure."
We don't want poor people, or 12 year olds or rich people who have extra cash to burn to get ahead. Not contesting what you believe in. Just commenting on the trends of the posts before yours.

Okay, I misunderstood that you had to buy from another player using in-game currency. I was thinking that you had the option to buy from someone else or buy from the company with gil. Now that I understand correctly, I still don't believe that it is a good idea to promote any kind of RMT when, in the first place, they are trying to prevent it. O-o

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Originally Posted by GodseijuroHiko

I made a post earlier about people being elitist about FFXIV, or keeping it "pure."

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We don't want poor people,

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Honestly I can't help but finding this sequence of sentences all kinds of inappropriate.


PS: Elitism and ego don't pay SE's bills and development.