ARR Gil Cap Reduction

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I would have lol.

Make the numbers more inflated so the cheapest thing in game costs 100+ gil? No thanks.

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You realize income is interdependant of prices, so everything would have been the same anyway ?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You realize income is interdependant of prices, so everything would have been the same anyway ?

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Well.. yes I've been arguing that very point. It would be the same technically, yes. However it'd be annoying as hell to deal with larger and larger numbers for no reason. This is why they're dropping a digit instead of adding one in the first place..

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I suppose we both have our predictions of how this redenomination will play out in the market. At this point I'm officially tired of trying.

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I suppose only time and how the market will be in v2.0 will prove either of us right or wrong. And for having lived the change of money here in Europe, you're trying to explain how redenomination works and its advantages/disadvantages to the wrong person.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I suppose we both have our predictions of how this redenomination will play out in the market. At this point I'm officially tired of trying.

As it has been with every other change that hit this game, we'll just see what happens. However I don't want to discuss this any further I feel like I've said everything I had to say. Oh, and I won't make some accusation against any of you to cover myself as I leave either lol

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Funny how I made that very same equation and Gath joke.

Well looks like all is resolved. I'll go back pages and call out the people who were so adamantly wrong later when I'm actually on a PC. One guy even asked if I'd be willing to shove my foot in my mouth and post pics.

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Wonder why people don't put weight in what you say? Most people aren't stupid enough to take for granted the words of somebody who contradict himself every 3 posts. A troll stays a troll. lol.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You realize income is interdependant of prices, so everything would have been the same anyway ?

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Thats not entirely true, but certain items are less effected by inflation then others (mostly those high in supply). However new items specially those unsure of how rare they are would get insane inflated prices.

Not all real world rules cross over into the game world smoothly, but yes generally income does effect pricing of items particularly luxury items.

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Originally Posted by PandaTaru

I suppose only time and how the market will be in v2.0 will prove either of us right or wrong. And for having lived the change of money here in Europe, you're trying to explain how redenomination works and its advantages/disadvantages to the wrong person.

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I'm currently in Turkey visiting family as I so often do. Turkey had a major redenomination take place less than a decade ago. I lived through it. Experienced it as our basic equivalent of a dollar went from being 1 million Turkish Liras to 1 Turkish Lira. They dropped 6 digits.

Don't flatter yourself.

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Wonder why people don't put weight in what you say? Most people aren't stupid enough to take for granted the words of somebody who contradict himself every 3 posts. A troll stays a troll. lol.

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How trivial can you get? Honestly? Repeatedly calling me a troll at this point is only serving to belittle yourself.. I said I was tired of discussing this with people. I had enough of people who seemed to fail to grasp how redenomination would play out and decided to wait until it was officially confirmed.

I can't help that it was confirmed right after I said that lol.

Also, btw calling out people for being wrong after all isn't accusing them of anything other than that. I've been accused of trolling (still getting accused), insulting and being condescending while trying earnestly to help people see things more clearly.

Think what you'd like though. Whatever floats your boat.

Really, a huge amount of gil was created in the early days of the game when leves handed out massive amounts of gil. Most of the gil in the game was created in the first year. People who complain about Atomos spamming have no idea. lol ^^;;

This really is the only way to correct this.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Well looks like all is resolved. I'll go back pages and call out the people who were so adamantly wrong later when I'm actually on a PC. One guy even asked if I'd be willing to shove my foot in my mouth and post pics.

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You were the one who was adamant about it, I never said they weren't going to do it, all I said was that they'd be stupid to, and that hasn't changed.

What exactly does this accomplish? making things easier to read for the mathematically challenged or visually impaired? As far as I can see, SE is literally incurring a negative PR reaction for no tangible benefit.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

You were the one who was adamant about it, I never said they weren't going to do it, all I said was that they'd be stupid to, and that hasn't changed.

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lol fair enough.

Though I still disagree. They're quite smart for doing this. What they'd be stupid to do is not put up Topics posts and further explain the transition, ensuring it takes place as smoothly as possible with the wide majority understanding it.

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What exactly does this accomplish? making things easier to read for the mathematically challenged or visually impaired? As far as I can see, SE is literally incurring a negative PR reaction for no tangible benefit.

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Reducing needlessly inflated values. One benefit was already pointed out. People undercutting for 1 gil have no trouble doing so cuz 1 gil isn't worth crap.

Also, since yu're so keen on perception, they're making it so not nly each gil is worth something, but actually reaching a million means something.

Again, the PR reaction depends more on how they handle the transition rather than the transition itself.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

You were the one who was adamant about it, I never said they weren't going to do it, all I said was that they'd be stupid to, and that hasn't changed.

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.. redenomination changes nothing, only player perspective. Specially in this game system where you can do it all at the same time perfectly. He is 100% correct on that. Because players are humans it will take a bit before everything mellows out to realistic prices though (the new price in respect to the redenomination).

Waiting to read an official translation of that Yoshi-P post this morning. I don't trust Google translator's gibberish. :P