Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Okay, first off, thank you for telling me.

And no. That isn't "me" saying those things. What the post says is:
"As it stands, this forum in general has people that do nothing but complain and can't throw a bone at the developers when something good's done. The game is just on a downhill slide and people who have any modicum of hope are just stupid.
And it also has people that do nothing but dismiss valid complaints and acknowledge consecutive issues that need to be addressed for the game to remain healthy and shut down any conversation under the pretext of negativity."
As in
Right now, the forum has two kinds of people.
1 - People who only complain and can't say anything nice about the devs ever. TO THEM, the game is on a downhill slide, and there's zero way to salvage it other than firing the dev team
2 - People who do nothing but dismiss any sort of complaint, even when it's valid (such as people who go on the forum tags for actually decent posts about gripes with the game and write "whiners"). They just instantly say everyone is wrong and negative, and a conversation cannot grow out of it.

Maybe my flaw was not pointing out there was more than just "two kinds of people". OBVIOUSLY there's more. It's just that for the effect that I was getting to, I was describing the two extremes we see here.

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Alright, I apologize for that outburst of mine. Ive pulled a bit of an aveyond and didnt fully go through the reply posts you made earlier in the thread to fully grasp the meaning behind what you said.

However, I do recall seeing that thread where you made such a post but Im sorry, I still dont see how people were trying to shut you down at all, I dont recall them ever bully you down with their statements nor if their takes actually were that extreme. Could you at least link to where that thread and the page so I can read for myself? I just personally find when people say "actively try to shut down" conversation as something that is of the extreme case when it comes to a poster's post. Its very obvious to see if someone is that delusional and from what Ive been reading I dont see that happening for that side at the very least.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

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I didn’t intend to give my opinion about toxic positivity at first . My focus was on “constructive criticism.” However, since it was mentioned in the OP and kept being brought out by the following replies constantly that I decided to say something about it.

That is my poor attempt at mirroring the famous snaky quote and that part “where’s toxic positivity when you need it?” is nothing serious. I trolled at that part and I admit it’s inappropriate

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So no. Both sides are problematic, and we shouldn't want to have "a counter to X". Because guess what, Toxic Negativity is, in turn, a counter to Toxic Positivity. Neither side wins, everyone just gets tired.

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No one wins, and I agree with you. But it’s certainly more painful to be on the negativity side because of doom and gloom. Though I do feel the other side is rather lonely on this very forum when the majority of the threads and their replies are negative along with the number of likes attached to each of them. If Reddit downvote has any meaning, I’m sure those under the banner of “constructive criticism “ would surely find a lot of warmth here. Yet we act as if toxic positivity is the biggest issue in official forum, which to my biased and limited observation, isn’t.

And thus, this turns into another one of these forum brawls.

GEE I WONDER WHY THE DEVS DON'T REALLY TAKE THIS PLACE SERIOUSLY

Either way, gonna go get my popcorn.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

GEE I WONDER WHY THE DEVS DON'T REALLY TAKE THIS PLACE SERIOUSLY

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When you barely see the mods interact with the community it's probably not a good thing.

Also the devs probably don't even see the forums. Too busy working on the game. Probably have no time to play it.

Used to be a 1000 character limit you could bypass by editing your post. When you can bypass a restriction like that that's poor html at it's finest.

They really don't care a whole lot about their forums all that much.

Most of their communication is done through liveletters but it's primarily just a live powerpoint presentation.

Bravely Default was much better since they asked players to take surveys and vote on things for feedback on making the game better during the livestream events they would have. You aren't getting that here.

Did he enjoy anything about FFXIV? From the few times I watched him it seemed like he wanted to make it a different game. Well that, and making it so people can yell at each other in duty finder and not get banned for it.

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Originally Posted by Wasselin

Did he enjoy anything about FFXIV? From the few times I watched him it seemed like he wanted to make it a different game. Well that, and making it so people can yell at each other in duty finder and not get banned for it.

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I'm convinced he did like FFXIV. There were years where he was putting out multiple videos a week with not enough views to justify the content. He'd need to like the topic to survive that.

I get the feeling he tried the "youtube content creator thing," can see he gave it his absolute best shot, but it didn't work out for him or his channel in FFXIV. This has always been something he's done on the side, so I can see the appeal of just packing up the instant something else he does on the side (in this case, comedy) starts to get legs.

I wish him the best.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

source?

/10char

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...common%20sense

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Sad to him go but has a life he has to do which is important. Also he has discussed that the community has changed over the years and doesn't feel the same anymore. I been in FFXIV for 8 years and it has changed over the years. Toxic positivity has been rising, constructive criticism is booed off.

There is times I have thought of quitting FFXIV myself. I feel like content has been lackluster for a while and the things people want changed just doesn't happen. If the rate the game has been going will this really last 10 more years? IDK I hope it does but also the game itself has been feeling stagnant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eh8...el=GingerPrime
I posted his vid if anyone wants to see it

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What's that? People who have different opinions are being silenced? Who would've known! o3o

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Also the devs probably don't even see the forums. Too busy working on the game. Probably have no time to play it.

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To be fair, I wouldn't expect the devs to be directly interacting on the forums regardless. That should be the job of a community manager, who has the job of parsing our inane ramblings, turning it into useful feedback, and passing that along the chain. Of course I don't think we even have that, soo

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

To be fair, I wouldn't expect the devs to be directly interacting on the forums regardless. That should be the job of a community manager, who has the job of parsing our inane ramblings, turning it into useful feedback, and passing that along the chain. Of course I don't think we even have that, soo

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