Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

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Originally Posted by Velnora

That's just speaking strictly mounts.

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I'd love it if they put some more quality outfits on the mogstation, for both male and female characters.

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Originally Posted by Pelletier

It's about NOT BEING ABLE TO EARN IT. Paying money for it isn't earning it, it's buying it. I don't care if it's 1€ or if it's 200€, the thing is this is content that you should be be able to accomplish.

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Theoretically, you earned the money instead - doing something far more fruitful and productive than playing this game.

Moreover, if the mount was exclusive enough that there was any sense of achievement associated with it, you and almost every other person getting bent out of shape in this thread wouldn't be getting it anyway. If, on the other hand, it was a joke to acquire - like today's bear mount - then everyone would have it, and there would be no associated accomplishment at all.

You either care about having the thing, or you don't. Possession, not acquisition, is what matters.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The dreadnoughts used to give me anxiety when they spawned in t4.

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Oh yeah, Turn 4. The most memorable raid fight ever. The type of gauntlet fight they don't do anymore because nobody wants "trash mobs: the fight".

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

What makes you think they would offer these mounts or any of the cash shop stuff for free?

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"Free". This would be true if this was a free to play game. But when you buy a base game + buy expansions + pay a monthly sub you can hardly call any content created for it to be given out for "free".

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Originally Posted by Sicno

Oh yeah, Turn 4. The most memorable raid fight ever. The type of gauntlet fight they don't do anymore because nobody wants "trash mobs: the fight".

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Apparently people can't have different experiences.


You said cruise chaser was one of the more impactful. I disagree.

You aren't really refuting my point. Lol.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

If we acknowledge corporations are greedy, which they absolutely are. And not just in the gaming industry. What makes you think they would offer these mounts or any of the cash shop stuff for free? They have zero incentive. What would happen if there wasn't a cash shop is most of these items wouldn't exist. They might bring out the occasion unique mount per expansion and lock it behind a tedious grind to incentive dead content but that's about it.

This isn't defending Square Enix but simply acknowledging how the industry works.

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Right. It's a commentary on how shitty the industry is and how it continues to do it, because people keep feeding into it .

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Theoretically, you earned the money instead - doing something far more fruitful and productive than playing this game.

You either care about having the thing, or you don't. Possession, not acquisition, is what matters.

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You didn't earn it in-game, so it's worthless in this game's terms. Method of acquisition is what matters in an MMORPG, or used to be until whales and gachabrains took over the genre.

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Moreover, if the mount was exclusive enough that there was any sense of achievement associated with it, you and almost every other person getting bent out of shape in this thread wouldn't be getting it anyway. If, on the other hand, it was a joke to acquire - like today's bear mount - then everyone would have it, and there would be no associated accomplishment at all.

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Aren't you a bad mind reader? I personally would, whatever it took. I'm currently farming Feast just for a slight chance at getting a cool weapon.

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Theoretically, you earned the money instead - doing something far more fruitful and productive than playing this game.

Moreover, if the mount was exclusive enough that there was any sense of achievement associated with it, you and almost every other person getting bent out of shape in this thread wouldn't be getting it anyway. If, on the other hand, it was a joke to acquire - like today's bear mount - then everyone would have it, and there would be no associated accomplishment at all.

You either care about having the thing, or you don't. Possession, not acquisition, is what matters.

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Possession means nothing when the methods of acquisition are as simple as running a credit card.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Possession means nothing when the methods of acquisition are as simple as running a credit card.

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I assume that you're hand-crafting all your furnitures.
Farming your own food.
Perhaps you're even donating your money to the homeless since you don't need it.
Or perhaps nothing you own has any meaning.
Only empty shells, reminding you of the money that you wasted on it.

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Originally Posted by Pelletier

Incredible fallacy you got there comparing real life necessities to in-game achievements.

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We're spending out real life on a game.
And we're talking about real life money.
So if possessing something bought with real life money has no meaning then it has to include everything optainable through said means.

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Originally Posted by Pelletier

I'm not saying it doesn't have meaning overall, I'm saying it doesn't have meaning in-game, because you haven't achieved it with skill in the game or dedication to the game, you've just resorted to having disposable income IRL.

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But does every single thing need to have a certain meaning to it?
Can't it just be there for fun that fans who feel that they can spend a little on can have?


(Seeing that I can't post more and this will only get annoying to do, update an old one, I won't reply to more for the time being. =/ )

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I assume that you're hand-crafting all your furnitures.
Farming your own food.
Perhaps you're even donating your money to the homeless since you don't need it.
Or perhaps nothing you own has any meaning.
Only empty shells, reminding you of the money that you wasted on it.

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Incredible fallacy you got there comparing real life necessities to in-game achievements.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

We're spending out real life on a game.
And we're talking about real life money.
So if possessing something bought with real life money has no meaning then it has to include everything optainable through said means, real life or not.

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I'm not saying it doesn't have meaning overall, I'm saying it doesn't have meaning in-game, because you haven't achieved it with skill in the game or dedication to the game, you've just resorted to having disposable income IRL.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

But does every single thing need to have a certain meaning to it?
Can't it just be there for fun that fans who feel that they can spend a little on can have?

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No, not every single thing needs to, but this is an iconic raid boss we're talking about and you can see how many thousands of people expected to earn it in some way by how much it's been speculated where it would be rewarded. This is not some no-name flying whale, a crossover bike or a recolor.

"Be there for fun?" There's no fun in spending. If somebody finds it fun, they could spend tens of thousands of dollars in dyes, furnishings, fantasia, past event items, even outright investing the money in extra accounts or in Square Enix stocks if what you want to do is extra support.