Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

lol yeah I noticed that too..was like wtf.

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I think it might mean that even though JSE will be strong, high Ilvl, etc whatever you wanna call it that the stats themselves might not be desireable for all situations.

Lets say the MNK gloves have +25 DEX, +15 ATK, which is as strong as a triple meld tier3s. Its possible to triple Meld Tier3s to have gloves with +40 STR which may be better than the JSE (well in my particular example it would be).

The itemization probably isn't going to be 100% optimal, and all these new pieces may be situational.

Like always, its best just to do the "wait and see" approach instead of freaking out about every last vague detail they provide.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

I think it might mean that even though JSE will be strong, high Ilvl, etc whatever you wanna call it that the stats themselves might not be desireable for all situations.

Lets say the MNK gloves have +25 DEX, +15 ATK, which is as strong as a triple meld tier3s. Its possible to triple Meld Tier3s to have gloves with +40 STR which may be better than the JSE (well in my particular example it would be).

The itemization probably isn't going to be 100% optimal, and all these new pieces may be situational.

Like always, its best just to do the "wait and see" approach instead of freaking out about every last vague detail they provide.

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What that quote meant is that JSE will be stronger than multiple materia melded gear you could get from a crafter.

@Firon: When you can show me proof of someone leveling like you claim Pre ToAU, I'll retract my call of BS. Until then, you're just flapping your gums.

I played that game for years, and I was a job whore so I played them all. Never did I personally see any possible way to do as you claim back then nor did I ever hear anyone claim to have done so, until now.

So psyched for 1.21
I think to even the AF's to current gear doing an AF2 style "bonus to job skills" over higher stats would be the way to go
or even unobtainable stats like "+50% block rate" (for PLD) or "+20% cure" (for WHM)
well 10 more days and we'll know right?

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Originally Posted by Firon

You keep petending FFXI was just so hard to lvl in all you want, but facts are the hard part was the waiting game.

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That's why you made your parties.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I like how ppl say don't make this game like XI, but you wanna get your af gear the same shity way XI did lol -.-. Getting AF gear in XI was not hard standing there killing mobs for a key for about 2 hrs

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How to get AF in FFXI, from someone who played it:

AF - Speak with appropriate NPC, this is generally the quest for your AF weapon. You then complete it and use it or toss it (depending on year you did this, as there's better weapons in this day and age.) Level to 50+ do your next 2 quests, get those pieces, then you kill mobs for a coffer key, open your coffer, completed set.

AFv2 - Go to dynamis, kill shit, walk out with every job AF most likely (if you actually play you'd know they skyrocketed drop rates on this, even on Duelist Chapeaus and Ass Gauntlets, I've floored 20 of them in one run alone.)

AFv3 (Empyrean) - Buy the base armor from appropriate zone, trade to the magian moogle, slaughter usually SPAWNABLE NMs, collect your 8 seals (10 for body), trade it get your armor set, (feet has to be obtained from gold chests), then go slaughter tougher enemies (usually zone bosses and dragon birds of rapes) for 6-9 items to +2 them.

AFv2+2 - Head back to dynamis, collect 30 or 50 items (depends if you want to skip a step) then gain 20,000 exp while wearing said armor and bam, upgraded and augmented armor.

None of the ways are "shitty" as they all work in their respectable way. Only people who expect everything handed to them would find the ways "shitty" as you have to put in an iota amount of work to obtain them.

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then you kill mobs for a coffer key, open your coffer, completed set.
Go to dynamis, kill shit, walk out with every job AF most likely (if you actually play you'd know they skyrocketed drop rates on this, even on Duelist Chapeaus and Ass Gauntlets, I've floored 20 of them in one run alone.)

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Both of these methods was pretty shitty, If you don't think sitting there killing the same mobs for a key for a few hrs wasn't shitty then idk <.<. Also having Some gear in dyna being so rare that it could take up to a year to get is Shitty no matter how you look at it PLD AF2 body took me a year to get because of the stupid 1% drop rate and the few mobs that would drop it. Dyna could support 48 ppl i think, and only 4-6 of them go home with something to show yup that's great design right there ^_^. Shame i got my Shield to stage 4 before i got an PLD AF2 body. Now if you went to Dyna for CoR, SCH, BLU, DNC, and PUP AF rained like candy for them.


Trust me i played XI for 7 years and loved but, I'm not gonna pretend that all their content was done correctly.

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Originally Posted by Eli_Jin

Did no one else catch this contradiction where first Rukkirii said that we won't be able to attach materia to job specific gear, then says that new gear will be better than job specific gear with multiple materia attached (which can't have materia attached).

I do realize that the second bolded statement can be taken to mean that the new gear with multiple materia attached will be better than job specific gear, but then why not say it that way?

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I sort of interpreted that as them releasing even better JSE in the future that would have stats more potent than if we were even able to attach materia onto the initial set of AFs we'll get with 1.21.

It could definitely use some clarification though.

She's saying that artifact armor will be better than current crafted gear with multiple materia on it, but in future they will make new crafted gears that are better than artifact armor if you put multiple materia on it.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Trust me i played XI for 7 years and loved but, I'm not gonna pretend that all their content was done correctly.

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Hence why FFXIV was the perfect opportunity to take what works and fixed what was wrong with it. None of the content was done perfectly due to one issue or another, but the concepts of it were perfect.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

She's saying that artifact armor will be better than current crafted gear with multiple materia on it, but in future they will make new crafted gears that are better than artifact armor if you put multiple materia on it.

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That was my other guess based on Rein's translation as well.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Hence why FFXIV was the perfect opportunity to take what works and fixed what was wrong with it. None of the content was done perfectly due to one issue or another, but the concepts of it were perfect.

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Loves yous