Forcing players to pay to keep housing is unfair.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Like I said I fully understand why this system is in place but there are many reasons why players may not be able to play for a month. I could be hospital dying.

It's very [inconvienant] for a pay monthly game that you're only allowed to be away for one month.

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If you were in the hospital dying, do you really think the state of your MMO account in 45 days would be important? But I know you were just reaching for concerns. I've gone away from the game for a while before - it is why I went with an apartment for my character instead of a house.

It is probably to late to pressure them for Stormblood... but we should maybe try to pressure the devs into making an instanced housing plot - seen from the outside this plot would look generic and have no outside decorations. Entering the plot through a 'portal' would put you on an instance for it - they could then have an unlimited number of these... Maybe add them off to the side of normal plots, similar to apartments.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

The reality is people don't feel sorry for the OP because they want their house.

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Incorrect.

I don't feel sorry for the OP because they seem to think that they should get special snowflake treatment just because they pay/paid a subscription. So does the rest of the active playerbase, and if they (the OP) are going to inactivate their sub for however long, they need to accept it's possible their house will no longer be there when they return. SE doesn't owe them anything, especially if they aren't even going to be an active subscriber anymore.

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Originally Posted by Makeda

If you were in the hospital dying, do you really think the state of your MMO account in 45 days would be important?

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While dying? Probably not. When recovered and wanting nothing more than to get back to normalcy as soon as possible? Yeah, I could see how that would be a kick in the gut for this hypothetical situation.

Honestly, it shouldn't be too late. They should have begun reworking housing at LEAST from the end of ARR. It has been OBVIOUSLY flawed since well before then. This is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

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It's not a silly analogy just because you disagree. I think people are focusing a little to heavily on the comparison than the point. As I said in my follow up post, this community seems to be far more interested in punishing players over the little things. It's like people treat stepping away from the game once as the same as quitting and that I personally find that to be a silly analogy. Honestly, the problem is not that the feature exists, but rather that 45 days just isn't enough time. It should be extended to 3 months.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

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Wait... a player trying to protect their assets now makes them a special snowflake?

Additionally; "especially if they aren't even going to be an active subscriber anymore." Here's that mentality of wanting to take a break seems to be viewed at as never coming back or quitting cold turkey; or something simliar. I don't know why so many of you seem to think this way.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Here's that mentality of wanting to take a break seems to be viewed at as never coming back or quitting cold turkey; or something simliar. I don't know why so many of you seem to think this way.

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I honestly think it's because it has never (and perhaps never will) happen to them. So this crapola is so easy for them to say. And it's not like the OP is asking for any sort of special treatment. They're asking it be changed FOR EVERYONE. Reading comprehension, what is it and why is it so hard. [/sarcasm]

It isn't a matter of fairness. It's a matter of business. A huge pull for people to stay subscribed is housing. Housing is limited, because of smart business reasons and also HOLY MOLY that is a lot of instances and data to keep afloat on the servers, if it was infinite or significantly boosted... eesh.

Anywho, back to the point: You have a big pull for the game in housing. The game is paid for mainly by subscriptions. If you could hold onto a housing spot, WHILE remaining unsubbed, they are losing money from both ends. One end, the usubbed housing owner. The other, the discontented player(s) who cannot acquire the (now unoccupied) slot.

This is the happy medium. Honestly, I'm surprised it doesn't instantly drop upon subscription cancellation. You're essentially hoarding a luxury allocation of their ingame resources while not giving them any money in return.

They aren't doing this because they want to make the people angry, but it's just... poor business to operate otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Wait... a player trying to protect their assets now makes them a special snowflake?

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That's the fault in your process here. The player has no claim to any assets in the game. You pay for access to assets you use, but the ownership lies in the owner of the business. It's frustrating if you lost something you invested a lot of time to, but at the end of the day the only thing you can lay claim to is your subscription. All else is in their domain, they are just allowing you access.


[[Edit: Apologies for doubleposty]]

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Originally Posted by Centershock

I honestly think it's because it has never (and perhaps never will) happen to them. So this crapola is so easy for them to say. And it's not like the OP is asking for any sort of special treatment. They're asking it be changed FOR EVERYONE. Reading comprehension, what is it and why is it so hard. [/sarcasm]

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So because we disagree with his interpretation of how it should be changed "FOR EVERYONE", which includes us we're just not comprehending it? We have a different view on what's fair, I don't appreciate your suggestion that somehow I can't empathize or am too stupid to comprehend what their saying. If you have nothing useful to contribute other than casual insults then go elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Centershock

I honestly think it's because it has never (and perhaps never will) happen to them. So this crapola is so easy for them to say. And it's not like the OP is asking for any sort of special treatment. They're asking it be changed FOR EVERYONE. Reading comprehension, what is it and why is it so hard. [/sarcasm]

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Implementing it for everyone is just as bad as the current system. Less people will have an opportunity for housing, and people will basically take plots and do nothing with them. I know of at least 3 people who have 3x of each plot type on some servers spread across 3 different characters.

The system needs to be changed, but as it is, the demolition timer should stay to provide an opportunity for everyone to get housing.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

I cant believe this is still going its simple think of it like this , if you have a house in real life and you dont pay the rent what happens next?

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Well normally you wont pay a rent for a house ;) you will buy it and depending on the money you have you need to borrow money from the bank. For example our house in real life is completely paid so we dont need to pay for it anymore. So my parents are owning it and as long as nobody else is hurt through actions they can do whatever they want with that. We could for example travel around the world and leave it empty for years and when we come back its still our home. Ingame we also bought the house, we did not rent it. So if we use rl examples then we really shouldnt lose it. ;)

But lets just say we have to pay taxes in real life too for the house. So I just need to make sure that I have enough money on my account and I can still leave the house empty for years. Yet ingame we not only pay taxes (our sub) but we also have to visit the house to keep it..so in a way this is even worse than real life. If we take real life into account, paying our sub should we way enough..but at the same time FF14 is not real life so we should not be burdened with so many negatives for owning a virtual item..(also apartments exists in real life too yet somehow they are ours forever ingame..shouldn't they be exactly like housing?)