There Is No Dancer (yet)

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

now i want to point some stuff that people tend to ignore for try to justify something that can't be justified. Yoshida have always said that we will never see another weapon type added to the class.

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Monks already have mounted blades in the game...

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

they will not develop animation for different race or sex (only the job define the animation). that know, how is possible to say she is a monk when she is sooo different. they are both fighter, yes.... both monk? no only the WoL is a monk.

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Because...it's...a...cutscene.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

and i invite people to take 5 minutes and go ingame check the animation of the.... monk skill she seems to use for see they are totally different.

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And I invite you to look at Heavensward trailer. DRG can't throw spears downwards, WAR can't dodge roll a firebreath. Or the ARR trailer. Shield Bash doesn't knockback, the channeling/casting animation of the BLM are incoherent to be Flare or any Fire spell, the BRD did a shield unaivalable to us, and the WAR parried an attack from behind and followed with a roundhouse axe move not present in the game.

This...is...called...cutscene.

EDIT : Oh, and I suppose the lady is not a hyur also, since the in-game bust slider doesn't go up to that size, right ?

Yeah. While it's fun to speculate, it is an extremely likely possibility that the stylistic differences between the Warrior of Light's more standard Monk and the Girl's more graceful moves are purely for cinematic purposes.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Monks already have mounted blades in the game...

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we are not talking of the picture of the logo, but of the clothing with metal part attached to it

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Because...it's...a...cutscene.

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and it's a cut scene of a fight, where the WoL show us monk classical move and animation... nice to ignore the fact that she do have set of movement and skill that are different by animation, while the WoL us the animation of the game. nice nice.

i will go farer, you are like some soo adamant that she is a monk, when everything she do is not monk like that it's disturbing! the reason you guys say she is a monk is because....she use her feet and hand for fight. dark knight have a kick, do it's actually a.... monk?
instead to be there trying to justify what can't be... why not accept that some stuff feel fishy. most of your argument are lacking any investigation. because it's a cut scene it can explain all! she is fighting with her hand and her feet she is a monk.

what we did said, is her movement is too different of the monk we know, plus in the game the school of the monk from ala miggho are already known, and they have the same fighting style.

like i did explain countless if they make something soo much different while going so far to give her a clear style of fighting and way to move.... even for a cutscene... it too unnatural... they never do anything without reason, they did elude every question about the red lady for the rest of the fanfest for a reason.

i will be more clear, they did give us hint for age about what is coming. 2nd anniversary event, yoshida npc in the dev room say us that they work on red mage or samurai. gamecon this year, saying that the summer event do give us hint to the job. and strangely the yellow ranger end him emote with a classical dancer pose of ff11...

instead to be soo adamant, look at the whole picture. we did give tons of point that you guys push out without even try to look at the whole picture, that tiring. because every single arguement you have bring soo far are soo wrong.

an example, about this blade shown in the logo (not in the trailer by the way) the blade come from a bracer, not from a fist weapon, what is the patra of dusk vigil. the patra you use as....monk arugment are a totally different weapon. the blade come from something hold in the hand, covering most of the hand. the blade in the logo come from the bracer, what is not the same, not the same way to use it. and i can continue like this for age. every single argument about her being monk are soo.... *sighs*

even if it's a cut scene the fact that her style is soo different, when being said to be a character that we will meet, meaning ending to see fight in msq at some point. means they develop her style and such, but you know what, even if they try to give leader special skill and such, they often end with a few skill, not a whole set of movement like her. the admiral outside the fact she use a gun have what 2-3 move. the oracle have almost none (we never see her fight), rauhban is a particular case, but is often called gladiator and some of the skill use are skill that was take out when they did the pass for add the jobs.

anyway, instead to say what she is not by only looking at the Cut scene, why not see the whole picture for one time and look really at what we have at hand.... every single image they have give us wasn't done without reason. every time it's well controled. even the picture of Zeno (what was not needed) is hinting to a possible samurai.

anyway, i will conclude by this, she is not a monk of final fantasy 14,the same monk that is coming from school of the fist of Raghr, often called destroyer.... her movement don't say i'm powerfull, every strike i do will break you... no, they say i'm agile, gracefull, hit fast... that the whole point, her personality as fighter is too way far from what is a monk in FF14 that it's why people are wondering.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

i will go farer, you are like some soo adamant that she is a monk, when everything she do is not monk like that it's disturbing! the reason you guys say she is a monk is because....she use her feet and hand for fight. dark knight have a kick, do it's actually a.... monk?

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Let's roll back on that one, because you're taking it completely backwards. It started with "She uses kicks so she must be a Dancer", and I replied "Well, MNK uses kicks too". So, those kicks actually proves nothing about a DNC. If you're advocating for a new job, you have to bring actual proof of it, not just denying proof of the opposite.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

like i did explain countless if they make something soo much different while going so far to give her a clear style of fighting and way to move.... even for a cutscene... it too unnatural...

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No, it's not. Just look at the in-game cutscenes, and you'll see plenty of moves performed by NPC with confirmed classes, like Thancred or Yda. And again, every move from the HW trailer is different from what DRG actually do in the game. So, again, this proves nothing to back up a new job.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

they never do anything without reason, they did elude every question about the red lady for the rest of the fanfest for a reason.

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Yes, because we'll know who she is in patch 3.5.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

I will be more clear, they did give us hint for age about what is coming. 2nd anniversary event, yoshida npc in the dev room say us that they work on red mage or samurai.

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No, they asked if they should work on Samurai, Red Mage and Blue Mage...

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

Gamescon this year, saying that the summer event do give us hint to the job. and strangely the yellow ranger end him emote with a classical dancer pose of ff11...

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Or a NPC wearing a full Red gear for Red Mage ? Or the fact that they were 3 ? Or the fact that the other two jobs might have iconic Yellow or Black gear ? In fact, they could hint at so much things that you only narrow down to what pleases you. But keep in mind, we're not saying that we won't have Dancer in this expansion. We're just saying that nothing is actual proof of the trailer showing a Dancer.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

when being said to be a character that we will meet

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IIRC, he didn't say that we'll meet her, only that her identity will be revealed in 3.5.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

even the picture of Zeno (what was not needed) is hinting to a possible samurai.

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No, it's not. Garlemald Legatus all have their own unique weapons and style totally unrelated to available jobs.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

her movement don't say i'm powerfull, every strike i do will break you... no, they say i'm agile, gracefull, hit fast... that the whole point, her personality as fighter is too way far from what is a monk in FF14 that it's why people are wondering.

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Strange, I'm pretty sure the main mechanic of MNK is Greased Lightning...and they uses skills like Feathefoot...and Fists of Wind...
And, for the record, here's the description of Pugilist :

• “The path of the pugilist is one of incessant training aimed at mastering the traditional techniques of hand-to-hand combat. Though pugilists command formidable power when unarmed, they are wont to use metal, leather, and bone weaponry to maximize their destructive potential.
  Their preference for fighting at close quarters makes negotiating distances an absolute necessity. Many among them accomplish this by avoiding burdensome armor, allowing for maximum mobility while they move in for the kill.”

Again, if you want to prove that someone is a Dancer, you have to bring points that only apply to Dancers. If those points can be applied to anything else that alreadys exists in the game, it proves nothing. Especially since all those points can be applied to the same existing concept, which is...Monk.

If at all like i said earlier, perhaps she "danced" just to tease Dancer is coming but is actually not a dancer herself?
I mean she looks like she could of kicked that guys butt, lol
4.0 will have Monk as a posterchild, just like Heavansward was Dragoon
Do not get me wrong i do think Dancer is coming, just have my doubts that the lady in red is one.
At first i had though so but having seen the video like 40 times i have to lean towards what others have been saying that she is a Monk

Everyone is witch hunting for Dancer and I'm over here screaming blue mage. xD

Damn you Yoshi P! Mentioning blue mage in the rising has my hoping. ;-; <3

lol, well we are getting Red Mage most likely
Maybe 5.0 there will be Blue Mage? Look forward to it

https://youtu.be/IT12DW2Fm9M?t=67

Is this dancer as well?

any idea how boring that trailer wouldve looked if both contestants only did a move every 2.5 seconds? Until proven otherwise, its a cinematic. Theyre revamping and simplifying skillsets, they both obviously use different fists stances, maybe theyre going to add some real differences to movesets when in a different stance? Since monks really only use fire at the moment, kinda sounds like fixing redundant skills that get unused to me...

As far as dancer coming out, its a possibility, has been heavily asked for just about as much as rdm and sam, and im not gonna say it cant or wont be added either this time around or a future expansion. I'm just pretty sure the dbz-like action in the trailer is just that, makes monk look a hell of a lot more exciting, dodging and having a stalemate grappling stand and powering up, nearly flying in midair, than if they were to only do monks how they really are in game.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

any idea how boring that trailer wouldve looked if both contestants only did a move every 2.5 seconds? Until proven otherwise, its a cinematic.

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Reading that, I had shivers imagining Advent Children only depicting combat moves included in the original FF VII...
Thank god SE knows how to pump their CGI up to eleven :p