What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

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Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

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If you heal at 1900 with aspected benefic, your shield is 1900 + 30%, not only 1900. It's definitely better than adlo, and you can add synastry 20% potency boost on this.

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

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To be fair to you, no one has actually proven that abilities that state "Nocturnal Sect Potency = w/e" actually gets the boosted amount from the Sect bonus. It would make logical sense if it did, but this is S-E we're talking about here who can do weird things with their programming.

Does your AST have the exact same MND / DET / MD as your SCH? There could be a minor MND difference because different jobs and the weapon secondaries could affect your DET value. This could explain that 100 healing difference. Screenshot of your stats + heal amount would be nice to see too.

This has been something that's been itching at the back of mind for a little bit so it's something I was intend to test for a while but never got around to it. Now's better than never to prove something, lol.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.

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Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...

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Look...math is math. No two ways around it. If it is bugged, that is another matter entirely.

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...

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With same ilvl, my ast does better shield than my scholar (non crit), and even more with synastry.

Changes to AST were needed, absolutely. However, I feel like they went a bit over board with them and buffed every aspect of AST (baseline heals, cooldowns, and buffs). I feel that AST+AST might be a very likely thing; Synastry is likely the most powerful tank CD (+60%~ healing on a single target), CU has become a better/more potent version of Asylum/Sacred Soil, Nocturnal shields are now more powerful than SCH's (combined with having a more powerful Cure II and Medica in Nocturnal, and access to +60% healing makes A Bene a much safer option than Adlo), and longer DPS buffs from cards.

I think the changes were 100% needed, but I have a feeling they went a little overboard with buffing baseline potency, cooldowns, and card buffs.

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Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn

Changes to AST were needed, absolutely. However, I feel like they went a bit over board with them and buffed every aspect of AST (baseline heals, cooldowns, and buffs). I feel that AST+AST might be a very likely thing; Synastry is likely the most powerful tank CD (+60%~ healing on a single target), CU has become a better/more potent version of Asylum/Sacred Soil, Nocturnal shields are now more powerful than SCH's (combined with having a more powerful Cure II and Medica in Nocturnal), and longer DPS buffs from cards.

I think the changes were 100% needed, but I have a feeling they went a little overboard with buffing baseline potency, cooldowns, and card buffs.

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Shhhhh.
Don't say that in the presences of other Astros.
You just dug your grave. :C GL

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

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Stats are identical, gear is identical, and weapons are the same ilvl. Sch actually has 12 less mnd than ast (sch is 908 mnd, ast is 920), but still getting about 100 points more (it's not 100 potency, but rather A.Bene is about 3.9k~ in total while Adlo is just over 4k).

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

Stats are identical, gear is identical, and weapons are the same ilvl. Sch actually has 12 less mnd than ast (sch is 908 mnd, ast is 920), but still getting about 100 points more (it's not 100 potency, but rather A.Bene is about 3.9k~ in total while Adlo is just over 4k).

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Any DET on either weapon? Same ilvl doesn't actually mean same secondaries.

With that being said the 12 MND less but doing more healing kinda proves a point at this juncture. I'll probably end up messing around with this tonight just to get something more concrete.