So Second Coil has been destroyed

There's this thing called, latency as well.

Have you even been playing on the servers the last few days???

Eh...

dude i glad they nerfed this, its hard enough for my static to roll around to farm and people quitting after 1-2 attempts on T7, t6 and t8 meh i can care less i (and we) never had an issue this makes clearing runs faster carrying people for the sake of sol. All these internal complaints of the nerf you want to go hardcore, go savage. Me? i can finally farm t7 and get mah loot as well as my other buddies that long for so long.

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Originally Posted by Mitracia

Ah well, I suppose that you are lucky. In times when statics come and go, and finding a pug for a learning opportunity is counterproductive. In that case, you would be the one in need of a check. Statics rarely go smooth.

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Point is, it's not a matter of luck. As I said before, it's a matter of effort. From T6 to T10, 5 out of 8 members of my static have changed. This of course slowed us down even more, but as long as there is someone willing to recruit new players and test them out, clearing content is not that problematic.

You just need to keep trying.
Even after you fail, countless times.
Even when static people leave you - you find others, establish new relationships, and keep going.
Never surrender!

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

That's weird since I'm in a linkshell dedicated to helping teach new players old content and run them through it.... for free. We don't have any presence on the forums, only from a long time ago when it was simply Titan HM aid back at launch: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...your-Titankill!, but it's still going.

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Not to discredit the awesome work you guys are doing helping people, because seriously, thank you for doing that. But, you have proven nothing with this. People like you and your LS are quite few and far between, at least in my experience on the game, and even if theres at least one on every server, its an 8 man raid, and you can only carry so many people at a time. Some will be left out, and I imagine even the kindest folk will get bored carrying/helping wave after wave of new folks. I admit I do tend to run into nice enough players in duty finder and such, so i'm not saying the entire community is full of jerks... just that those who have cleared SCoB don't usually take in new people/teach them, as its far easier to stick with the 8 you have that can clear rather than trying to teach people who might not grasp mechanics as they do... and most don't even try unless its a friend or such.

Now, that out of the way, I'm actually in support of your side though, surprising right? I'm in a Linkshell who occasionally helps people with T5/T6 and such, they helped me in my T5 win, and though I wasn't carried, it took me a few attempts to figure it out, but once I did, I actually survived the entire fight beginning to end and avoided these mechanics, so its wasn't impossible, but without these people who helped me and knew the fight, I'd of probably never cleared it with a PUG since good players, rather helpful, or just smart, are hard to come by. Most people will not be as lucky as me, or those in your group... they wont have people who will patiently help them, or walk them through it, and a video can only get you so far. These are the people this update helps.

Edit: Also the 1000 character limit is so GD restricting that its annoying, its worse than a Tweet, because at least with a Tweet they're designed to be short and to the point... Forum posts generally are not. Whos bright idea was this I'll never know.

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Originally Posted by Kahoku

1. If u consider yourself hardcore: Great! More than likely this adjustment has made your farming capacity more streamlined for attaining more gear in a shorter amount of time. You are more than likely tired of the same fight anyway and will enjoy the laugh the adjustments will bring. You may also revel in the fact that casual players will have little to no bearings on anything worth while that u do.

2. If u consider yourself a casual player: Awesome, understandably not everyone can form statics and commit to set times for raids. I personally hope you enjoy the new adjustments and are able to gear accordingly so that if we may cross paths in the near future you are well equipped for the endevour.

3. Content is as fun and challenging as you make it out to be.

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You'd think it would be a win-win for everyone, but nope!
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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

How can people just be fine with "not being as good as others"?
This is what I am failing to understand.

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I'm in a linkshell and FC filled with aussies and some people are on something called a Playstation 3 and poor connections.

Unfortunately, FF14 is extremely discriminatory with peoples performance and less than stellar machines. There are also people I know who are nice, and make great friends, but for whatever reason just cannot perform. They're a bit slow, or have anxiety, or panic a bit under pressure at things. They're still friends though, so we try to complete content together.

I'm not really sure what else to tell you, there's a lot of people out there, and sometimes I wonder if it is the majority: who just cannot complete this "easy" content like T5 and T9.

If you made friends before going into coil, and they turned out to be just completely unable to perform despite showing actual true effort- what would you do? Would you leave them?

ITT: People are mad 7 month old content is now easier for players who have difficulty clearing it...

Honestly it doesn't bother me the changes they made; it makes wipes less likely for newer/unskilled/time restricted players. You still have to know the mechanics of the fight to conquer it. Just look at Titan HM/EX - no amount of echo buff will help people clear it without assistance of skilled players or extensive training. And you can always get rid of the echo buff if you want T9 la naturel.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I come to accept the change. I will finally be able to troll my LS with Cursed Voice.

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Originally Posted by Dashuto

Unfortunately, FF14 is extremely discriminatory with peoples performance and less than stellar machines.[/SIZE]

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Tell me about it. I have yet to clear Titan EX not because I don't know the mechanics of the fight, but because even WITH a VPN, I still get hit with the occasional bout of latency and boom, off the platform I go. Sometimes I can dodge Landslides just fine, other times I'll be out of the marker and get sent flying anyway. It's extremely frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Dashuto

If you made friends before going into coil, and they turned out to be just completely unable to perform despite showing actual true effort- what would you do? Would you leave them?

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Yes. Because my first static failed to clear t5 or Tex. I started joining pfs and getting my own experience and clearing content while they waited for MUH ECHO IN T5