[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

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Originally Posted by TheDraco4011

Put your money where your mouth is people. The only way Square Enix will change the data center at this point is if you make it clear they wont receive funding for their game until they do so.

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You start the boycott. Let us know when you're ready.

Only the northwest of SA will see a slight increase, everybody else got fucked. My ping went from 100 to 220 =.= now if i want to play this game i'll probably have to change to tank for the long gcds. We live in a ghost continent guys.
When yoship said this game is playable with 200ms, i had a good laugh, he never ever ever tested ninja at 200ms, or stance dance with CS during savage progression.
This is really sad because i've been playing this game since early acess of 2.0 and now they basically gave me the middle finger and said my money isnt worth for them.

Okay yeah sure lemme just cancel my preorder and end my sub all the while knowing location has less impact on ping times and everything to do with ISP/routing.

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Originally Posted by Voltres

SE took this decision without considering our continent, so I'll just quit the game and use the money with games that actually provide good service to us.

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I mean, is there a better example of this than the cloud mount and attire acquired through buying stuff from amazon? I got my DLCs but I had to buy things for other people because there was nothing I could buy for myself there lol i don't think they ever take us into consideration.

My ping went from 130 to 300. I'm willing to wait a few days to see what happens, but things are not looking promising.

These forums are just awesome. :D

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I'm sorry, but while my ping has increased, my lag in game has gone down considerably. Makes me wonder if anyone has actually tried to even play yet

Playing from NYC and I've got a ping of 30 ms..lol that is more then fine. I'll be moving to Southern California soon anyway....but either way, boycotting isn't going to work :P However if people keep having issues and it goes on for a while...SE will most likely look into it. ^^

Yeap this forum is a real trip. It's special.

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My ISP's route to central NA and eastern CA always routes to Virginia backbone before hitting outside routers... I kind of like it being one state over. I had 250+ ms ping when it was in montreal, now it's sub 50. if it goes to, let's say, Dallas, my ISP would route from Arizona to VA then down to TX. always has and always will. same for Chicago, first to VA then to IL.

Nope, I'm quite happy with the move. My ping and packet loss are both down.

Everybody please calm your Matron's tits.

Why weren't we boycotting from the start when they were in Montreal? Or was it fine when it was just the west with the (STILL PERFECTLY PLAYABLE) 90-100 ping?

You people can't take a joke.
Also fuma is clipping now, god it's so bad.

been playing with my VPN, looks like approx 90ms is the best I can do :( and that's routing directly thru chicago to the west coast.

You do that. Let me know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

i am german too, and I avoid 99% of other germans like the plague because I hate how some of them dont speak english...so whenever I would bring other people who dont speak german, they'd be left out.
And besides, frankly speaking, I have only ever had bad experience with the german player community, so i dont miss it at all.

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Damn i think i love you :D ;) I had the exact same experience (even in the german XIV forums here).

@BloodRubyXII
I really appreciate your explanation :) I am just afraid he won't get it in his current phase of rage...

Haven't had a chance to log in today yet but I spent nearly two years playing with a 750 ms ping sooooo...you'll forgive any lack of sympathy over someone having 100 ms suddenly.

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Originally Posted by Gaiussenpai

And people who are 95th plus on drg, mch and bard are saying they had worse ping such as 130-200 when they got them.

Really gets the neurons firing.

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Must be nice to play a class that doesn't have to double weave out the *** :^)

EDIT: not saying you can't play well with high ping, but given a player of equal skill on a good connection vs a bad one the good one will outperform every time and saying otherwise is really dumb.

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Originally Posted by Kuroneko_Jutah

Okay yeah sure lemme just cancel my preorder and end my sub all the while knowing location has less impact on ping times and everything to do with ISP/routing.

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I've been playing with my VPN and I can't get anything lower than 90ms in western PA. If you've got some routing secrets for me please feel free to share because I could really use some right about now.

I really hope this increase in ping is temporary due to recent DC change, and in a few days it gets better

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Originally Posted by cakesphere

I've been playing with my VPN and I can't get anything lower than 90ms in western PA. If you've got some routing secrets for me please feel free to share because I could really use some right about now.

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Switch ISPs or move. Internet infrastructure out in the boonies is going to suck, period. Wouldn't have mattered much if they'd put the DC in Chicago if your ISP has garbage infrastructure.

And on that note, why are you complaining about sub-100ms ping when there are people with legitimate grievances complaining about 200+?

let me pet my 0% packet loss like its that cat from inspector gadget while I laugh maniacally :)

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Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII

I'm not great at geography but didn't the servers used to be in like Canada or something? If so I'd have thought you were better off now cos I thought California is closer to Brazil than Canada lol.

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1. Brazil, which I'm assuming is where the majority of SA players are, is east SA not west.
2. Routing - it would have been a fairly straight shot all the way north to Montreal, I'm guessing SA is now being routed to NY and then west across the country to CA, or something to that effect. The only way to alter it would be to pay extra for a VPN which I imagine might be a problem with how currencies convert

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Originally Posted by Azell

When yoship said this game is playable with 200ms, i had a good laugh, he never ever ever tested ninja at 200ms, or stance dance with CS during savage progression.

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Not even Jesus Christ himself could twist mudras at 200ms :(

I as NA, more or less went from best case(right beside MTL) to worst case(2500 miles). 100ms is fine. Lot's of my euro friends got spunked on tho
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Originally Posted by Gumbercules

let me pet my 0% packet loss like its that cat from inspector gadget while I laugh maniacally :)

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I hope you just do solo content, cause it'll be really fun with a lot of people screwing up considering how many people are getting higher pings now. :)

you mean like the "equal skill" of thinking bards don't double weave out the ***? :P ... or drgs.....or mch..... ok im curious now, what classes do you consider to double weave out the ***? O.o NIN I guess? O.o

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Originally Posted by Gumbercules

let me pet my 0% packet loss like its that cat from inspector gadget while I laugh maniacally :)

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This is the real benefit of the move people are overlooking: I had a shitload of packet loss with Montreal and I live in western MI. I can still tracert a Montreal server from here and get a lot of packet loss (thanks Level 3, you guys suck).

Meanwhile my tracert to Cali gives me stable 75ms, no dropped packets, and I route from Chicago directly to San Jose and ultimately wind up in Sacramento every time.

How's in charge of the nuclear football here...this forum needs a strike.

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Originally Posted by xxAtticusxx

I got 90/100ms before the move, I now get 200/210ms from the UK with no tunnelling service. I suppose it'll be bye bye Gilgamesh soon for me :(

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Pretty much same for me.... I really don't want to leave my friends and the FC on Gilga though :(

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Originally Posted by anryo

I hope you just do solo content, cause it'll be really fun with a lot of people screwing up considering how many people are getting higher pings now. :)

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If only ping and packet loss were the same... Wait, they're not. The new location is HUGE for this. Everyone is seeing an improvement in packet loss, regardless of where they are. Higher ping sucks, but try playing. Packet loss is a huge cause of many people's issues.

Downgrade for Canadians.
Downgrade for east coast.
Downgrade for EU.
Downgrade for South America.
Upgrade for west coast.

No wonder they didn't want to tell us beforehand.
I should thank Yoshi for removing a job from my list of choices to play, in order to simplify my experience.

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Originally Posted by Mature

Omg that's awful! It seems a lot of us are going to Odin.

I'm still yet to test it as I'm at work but I won't hesitate to move to another server if the latency is too noticeable

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Is Odin more English-speaking (or UK-based) than the other EU servers? I may consider moving there if I find Gilga unenjoyable. Going to stick it out for a while though at least, hopefully the routing will improve...

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

If only ping and packet loss were the same... Wait, they're not. The new location is HUGE for this. Everyone is seeing an improvement in packet loss, regardless of where they are. Higher ping sucks, but try playing. Packet loss is a huge cause of many people's issues.

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I was having little to no packet loss through vpn previously, so this is nothing but a net loss for me. Tripled my ping without VPN, doubled with :(

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Originally Posted by Kuroneko_Jutah

Switch ISPs or move. Internet infrastructure out in the boonies is going to suck, period. Wouldn't have mattered much if they'd put the DC in Chicago if your ISP has garbage infrastructure.

And on that note, why are you complaining about sub-100ms ping when there are people with legitimate grievances complaining about 200+?

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Just because my issue is smaller than others doesn't make it any less of a downgrade for me. I can still -barely- double weave if I'm slamming my buttons as fast as possible, but I absolutely cannot raiton anymore as it clips horribly into my GCD. Packet loss reduction means little to me if I still need to use a VPN to get a decent connection. I was hoping to drop it because I wouldn't be routed through level3 anymore, no such luck.

I have friends that it's even worse for (SMN buddy's ping quadrupled and he struggles to properly do his opener now. He does not have the expendable income to afford a VPN for one game) so I speak for them too.

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Originally Posted by SteadiestShark

Is Odin more English-speaking (or UK-based) than the other EU servers? I may consider moving there if I find Gilga unenjoyable. Going to stick it out for a while though at least, hopefully the routing will improve...

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Interested in knowing this too, if the game is just unplayable now I may have to make the rather painful choice to move and I'd rather not get an experience of trying to communicate with people like I'm playing Dota2.

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Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII

*snip* we do not have guild transfer in this game you have to manually tear down everything you've built up and start it over (oh, you have an FC house? Good luck finding a free plot after you move).*snip*

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I am not unsympathetic to your plight, just wanted to nitpick a bit: FC transfer is coming, and IIRC SE said anyone transferring to one of the new EU servers they're building will not only do so for free they'll fully refund your house.

My question is to people here after reading a majority of these posts....it sounds like you haven't even tried playing yet. Why don't you actually test it out in a trial or a raid and see what happens? My ping went up but my lag improved considerably. I see all of these complaints but no proof of there being any difficulty in game. If it's that bad, record a video of a raid or anything that is net heavy and make a feedback thread for the devs to see. If you want them to take action, don't just sit on here and whine, actually show your difficulty in game, or be quiet. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Gumbercules

let me pet my 0% packet loss like its that cat from inspector gadget while I laugh maniacally :)

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Same here, I live just over two hours north of Sacramento and my ping is between 45-55 with no packet loss.

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Originally Posted by Kuroneko_Jutah

This is the real benefit of the move people are overlooking: I had a shitload of packet loss with Montreal and I live in western MI. I can still tracert a Montreal server from here and get a lot of packet loss (thanks Level 3, you guys suck).

Meanwhile my tracert to Cali gives me stable 75ms, no dropped packets, and I route from Chicago directly to San Jose and ultimately wind up in Sacramento every time.

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Yeah when i BLM I used to get my mana cost "tally" screwed up so much, I did sometimes have as high as 20% packet loss though XD Hopefully this stops happening now, or at the very least becomes a rarity not a guaranteed occurrence XD

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Originally Posted by Iromi

Playing from NYC and I've got a ping of 30 ms

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How is that even possible? You were probably getting 30 when they were still in Montreal, but you should be around 85-90 now. The lowest I've seen anyone from NYC have so far is 85, and that's on fios. I'm in Buffalo and I'm getting 130 because it routes me to NYC then to Seattle then goes to Sacramento rather than taking a straight path. Hopefully that'll be fixed sooner rather than later.

Your ping to the speedtest servers is not the same as the ping to FFXIV.