FFXIV Bitter Sweet

SE should:

• Remove exp reward from FATE's, forcing players to level up in parties or solo so they learn to play their class/job properly ready for endgame.
  
  
• Make all quest items U/U so players don't flood the market with them. Instead they should have to either use them, convert them into materia to affix to their next set of gear or npc them.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

SE should:

• Remove exp reward from FATE's, forcing players to level up in parties or solo so they learn to play their class/job properly ready for endgame.
  
  
• Make all quest items U/U so players don't flood the market with them. Instead they should have to either use them, convert them into materia to affix to their next set of gear or npc them.

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1. Players might just want to level an alt to have the AF gear and not necessarily use it for dungeon runs moreover partying or doing dungeons extensively does not "teach" you how to do end-game dungeons, every run after the first is as brain-dead as FATEs.

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Originally Posted by MysteriousRonin

Not all games should be made for you casuals though. I think it's terrible that they made such a shallow casual game instead of a real MMO. Once you're done with the story you're done with the only thing that keeps this game worth playing. FFXI had me entertained for years, this game had me entertained for a few weeks and now I'm tired of leveling my other jobs, doing fates, the bugs, the loading issues, the awful worse than WoW community, and doing the mindless end game dungeon grind. The 2.1 stuff is not likely going to give people too much for end game either. At least XI was designed to keep you busy for a long time with plenty of things to do in its huge world.

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coulden't say it any better myself!!

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Originally Posted by midnitdragoon

combat is too fast paced. i feel that its a spam fest hitting 1,2,3.. Kinda miss the turn based tactics of final fantasy 11. oh well.

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well "Final Fantasy " is about turn base since the first FF and people who hate slow and turn base games shoulden't get invold with the series but FF in general has change so much over the years so then again This dosen't apply anymore.

I agree with OP, and I have given more "likes" in this thread than any other.

alot of truth in here!

DEVs should read through.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

I so wish I could pull out the threads in BETA of players crying over how insanely difficult the level 15 quest was or more recently, how Twintania is "impossible" thus leading to its nerf.

Is it a new trend now? for players to complain about content being too difficult then turn around to say that the game is too easy and they couldn't get any challenge.

Players in 1.0 hated to wait for the ferry and track ferry arrival timings, and now we have players in 2.0 asking for the very feature players voted out to be implemented.

damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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It's because people don't know what they have until its gone. Most people didn't realize the joy they got from sitting on the airship, chatting with friends, and thinking back of the few battles they just had that were tough and wild and totally fun. Sitting back and enjoying it all while waiting for the airship to reach its destination to continue that adventure.

Now that they can't do that, and now that there are no real "epic battles" or anything of note worthy, they are starting to realize just what they lost. They didn't so much lose an annoying game mechanic like they thought, they lost their depth and enjoyment to a degree instead.

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Originally Posted by DakkonBriefs

I agree with OP, and I have given more "likes" in this thread than any other.

alot of truth in here!

DEVs should read through.

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Woah... I just realized... Are you the Dakkon I used to play with on Shiva about 6+ yrs ago? For some reason seeing Dakkon - Shiva - FFXI rang a bell deep in my sub conscious...

Why is crafting a separate job again if DoW/DoW have priority? If you don't want RMT to sell ilvl 90 crafted items then why don't you just implement unique gear crafted by unique dungeon drops?

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Originally Posted by ufufu

You can believe that if you want. I certainly did read through your post; I just think that your opinions - because no matter what you say, that's what they are - are wrong.

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Actually , her opinions ( as you say ) are the actual truth.
I agree fully with your assessment of the game and i came to the same conclussion as the TC
I ran every dungeon soooo many times to get every bit of gear for my tank that dropped, then my class quest just gave me better ,like WTF, seriously, why did i bother wasting my time , i should have just run fates with the million other sheep.

That was the first straw, the final straw was running 2 dungeons over and over to get tomes to buy better gear, i gave up. Im not doing that, its beyond pointless and not fun at all.
Yea, ive unsubbed, its a shame, the game had promise...O well, heres looking at you wildstar and ESO

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Originally Posted by Nyme

i tried it a few times and i just couldn't understand a single bit about the game( FFXI), i didn't have anyone to help me ......

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This is EXACTLY what is wrong with ff14 and why it has so many mixed feelings..
Ive been playing mmo's for over a decade. Ppl like me can jump into any mmo and understand the core gameplay in a few hours.
New ppl to mmo's or casual players will struggle.

pll like me wanted a mmo set in the FF world that had depth and adventure, theorycrafting and dare i say challenge. FF has none of these things.
FF14 is the same as wow these days. Watered down generic rubbish for the masses .

MMo vets dont really like it
Casuals or new players love it .....