We need an AH

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Originally Posted by RinL

You are kind of bending his words, and I dont think its fair to use that as an argument for or against market wards or auction houses in this case.

The player you quoted said the following



The main part of his post seemed to be talking about impulse buying, and im not quite sure how that fits in to this conversation (no offense TessaJalloh!!). I think he/she was just explaining how impulse buying might fit in with this situation on either side of the AH / Ward line.

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I didn't bend anything. He said that with the MW there is the benefit of impulse buying, where you open up a retainer and see other stuff you might wish to buy. Then he said this is only possible with an AH with items that are nearby what you're searching for....well, this is also true for the MW isn't it? in the case I stroll off and start clicking on other retainers so i can shop on "impulse" it'd be the same as me flipping through the AH. This is hardly a benefit.

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Originally Posted by Mack

I didn't bend anything. He said that with the MW there is the benefit of impulse buying, where you open up a retainer and see other stuff you might wish to buy. Then he said this is only possible with an AH with items that are nearby what you're searching for....well, this is also true for the MW isn't it? in the case I stroll off and start clicking on other retainers so i can shop on "impulse" it'd be the same as me flipping through the AH. This is hardly a benefit.

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Again, I dont think his argument really benefits either market wards or auction houses though. He is simply stating his opinion on buying things on impulse from what I can see.

I only mentioned the bending of words since you took that and used it to defend market wards and retainers. Sorry if I misunderstood, but if I did not then ill stand by what I said ;)

His original reply seemed to be a random thought on how these two systems affect impulse buys, not defending one system one way or another.

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Originally Posted by Mack

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

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^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

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Originally Posted by TessaJalloh

^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

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I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

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Originally Posted by TessaJalloh

^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

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Or selling stuff in Sets.

I've done it more then once where I found a retainer selling the body armor I wanted and bought the boots, and gloves to match as well from them without ever returning to the search.

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Originally Posted by sasukeuchiha

I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

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At risk of sounding rude, if you don't have a use for whatever else you might discover. just don't buy it? Bit of a no brainer really.

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Originally Posted by sasukeuchiha

I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

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This is another reason I wouldnt mind seeing changes made to the current ward system.

If you went ahead and put in the changes I have posted about you would have to have some sort of delivery system, or at least I would hope you would.

That would mean a mail system which would be the easy way out, or a mog house which would the be the right way to handle things :D Having items delivered from the auction house / improved market wards / whatever you want to call it to your mog home would give the Dev teams a reason to put in housing, and would also give us a bit more storage.

If we could purchase / craft trunks and closets for our houses that could hold items like an inventory that would help with storage problems many people have come across, and that would just be a side effect of improving our trade system.

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Originally Posted by RinL

Well, I guess it boils down to how you like to play the game as an individual.

Many players do not want to have to run to a location, search for an item, run to another location, purchase the item, then start over or move to different wards to get whatever else they need.

The current ward system also does not really help players who want to find the best deals on common items. Who likes sorting through 24234134 retainers to find the best deal on crystals?
There's a Search engine for a reason!

Also, im not a huge fan of having each city sectioned off from each other with the market wards. An Auction House could help to tie everyone together without having a huge overflow of retainers in the wards.
Ishgard could do as the main stream of the wards, who knows =)

In my opinion, an Auction House system would do great so long as they implemented a delivery system along with it. Being able to visit one place in each main town and easily search through the available goods other players want to post is a great help to players. After you finish all your shopping (no zoning, just searching for the different items you want to buy) you can just head down to your mog house or the local mailbox and pick up your goods.
... Sorry, I couldn't resist =D

The AH system is just much easier than the market wards. At least it is in my opinion.

Thanks!

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Thank you for replying at least!

Everything you wrote is right, but I wouldn't substitute a system in a 50/50 situation. If I recall it correctly, Yoshi-P said that he wanted to implement an AH, but infos are really low, so for now we have to stop being some lazy asses and start searching in the wards like everybody do.

Who knows! Maybe the AH will search through the Retainers in Eorzea. We'll see what SE comes with their minds =)

Ah, and use the Search system more. It seems that it's not common to you, but with that you can easily seek the best price for anything. Just practice that a lil' more!

I'd rather have Market Wards

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Originally Posted by toshimoog

That's why I liked FFXI's auction system because it went directly to your items.

edit: Didn't it? It did, right? Now I'm having trouble remembering, it's been a while.

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The items you bought on the AH in xi went to your delivery box in your moghouse where you picked them up (acting also as another 8 slots of inventory space if your storage space was running a bit thin) WoW, the same thing, except on a much larger scale with the mailbox system they've implemented.