"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

now that I finally found it, some of y'all remind me of this particular screenshot:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...g5huf1ab81.png

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Originally Posted by Padudu

IM the warrior of light, not you ffs what do you dpses and healers not understand about this??

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um ackshually youre not the warrior of light, i am!
the scions said so!!!

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Originally Posted by KariTheFox

So funny story about an expert roulette I had. My wife and I run as tank/dps pair most of the time, and if we're clearing packs fast enough, we'll start staggering our sprints so that she can run ahead of me and pull packs while my sprint is still cooling down. Works pretty well, makes dungeons go by super fast.

We're doing that in Stigmascape, making incredibly good pace and - when suddenly the red mage pipes up with "stop pulling ahead and let the tank pull". And I'm like, "nah it's fine, it's faster this way" then the healer - a mutual friend also says it's fine.

And in response? the red mage leaves the dungeon right before the final boss. Absolutely baffled by some players in this game.

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This is some strange ego at work. I feel like that rdm tanks a lot, with the idea only tanks no matter what should pull and you two somehow greatly offended his sensibilities.

Makes me wonder if some tanks just play it to rp some kind of commander that must absolutely control all aspects of movement in a dgn.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

now that I finally found it, some of y'all remind me of this particular screenshot:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...g5huf1ab81.png

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Holy shit...I rest my case loooool.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

now that I finally found it, some of y'all remind me of this particular screenshot:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...g5huf1ab81.png

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This.....this is too much. That ego is mind boggling, I tank a good 95% of the time and I’ve never felt the urge to act like this. That’s wild.

Yes I can playfully let dps sweat a little with pulls but I’d always get the aggro back. It’s not that serious.

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Originally Posted by Ultaniku

This.....this is too much. That ego is mind boggling, I tank a good 95% of the time and I’ve never felt the urge to act like this. That’s wild.

Yes I can playfully let dps sweat a little with pulls but I’d always get the aggro back. It’s not that serious.

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He has to be trolling, I can't imagine someone would seriously think like that lol. It's something I would do if I was feeling goofy.

Edit: Just noticed that he's the one who said LMFAO at the end. Definitely trolling.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

If a DPS or healer pulls in front of you as a tank, refusing to grab aggro and watching them die (or not; sometimes the healer or DPS can survive easily) is just petty. It's basically a temper tantrum. It's an "I gotta teach them a lesson" sorta attitude that is frankly kinda cringe.

That's just my opinion! Tanks shouldn't do this!

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I did this few days ago in dungeon. Second dps and healer were slow to arrive to boss, maybe they wanted to grab chest or something I dunno. Popped veil for healer as the slowpokes suddenly found their sprints and just sprinted in pulling the boss. No veil. No chance for me comfortably pull the boss.

I am sorry if I didn't have patience for bs like that. I really didn't.

Despite stepping out the game eventually forced me to boss fight as it does and only then I took aggro and saw party kill the boss before I willingly took the penalty and left. The trashpulls before bossfight have been so and so, I am 99% I would have died at least once if I didn't have clemency'd my ass both in that boss and at trash.

Honestly no matter how people try to twist it. I just have no patience.

Healers and dps who know to bring trash back to me if they slip are whole different thing. I like you.

I remember at one point I was on heals and the tank told me that I'd have to tank if I pulled, so I did. Apparently WHM is very good at tanking 50/60/70 roulettes.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I remember at one point I was on heals and the tank told me that I'd have to tank if I pulled, so I did. Apparently WHM is very good at tanking 50/60/70 roulettes.

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Yup, had this happen many times. Being the tank doesn't give a player an excuse to ego trip and derail a run. It's griefing.

If Thancred can wall to wall, then so can players. I will absolutely pull ahead to nudge a tank along and they'll either get with the program, or I'm leaving. I will not enable tanks who don't know how to do their job properly in level 50+ content. Playing with actual players is supposed to be faster than npcs, not slower.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Yup, had this happen many times. Being the tank doesn't give a player an excuse to ego trip and derail a run. It's griefing.

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I have a feeling people with this issue must come from another, more traditional MMO. I can't imagine anyone who played the game for a couple years would still have the "I'm special" mentality. The multi-class system means most players would have tried out and play all the roles at some point or at least trying them out. And once they did, they would realize none of the role are special, and everyone can do it, at least in casual contents.

In fact, it gets even better in savage content where the difficulty is actually Tank < Healer < DPS. So yeah, tanks with an ego either gotta be new to the game who used to the status privilege from other MMO, or people with privilege issue in general.