That's not the case, you people just find every little way to complain about NOT adding jump. Why do you detest something so much? Just accept that they are adding it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
PS I've played them, but coming from you group of people, no one is never right.
I hear this final fantasy feel all the time from ya'll, comparing to the rest of the series.
but then again, I also hear that you can't compare it to non MMO games. Make up your mind what we are gonna compare this one to
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11-05-2011, 01:03 AMDeadRiser
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11-05-2011, 01:08 AMJennestiaWhat does that have to do with FFXI though? You specifically stated FFXI is an old game when you were responding to the "Doesn't feel Final Fantasy enough" statements.Quote:
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Therefore my question to you was never heard of the series before XI? -
11-05-2011, 01:09 AMDeadRiserNah I'm done with you lot. You spend so much effort in a jump thread than anything else. I'm outta this BSQuote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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11-05-2011, 01:24 AMEekiki
Yes, it would be SO ANNOYING to watch people jumping around like bunnies. Good thing we don't have something like that here yet. Just people who like to take out their Ifrit weapons so they light up, then put them away, then take them out again. Over and over and over. That's not annoying AT ALL.
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11-05-2011, 01:46 AMReliquiaActually innovation means "to renew or change", it is often misused to describe improvements but the word innovation itself doesn't have anything to do with quality. In fact the quality might increase or decrease, and if you look at the way FFXIV tried to innovate from 11 at launch was clearly not a good result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Djeserit
Jumping is not by any chance innovation when it comes to gaming.
As far as I can remember there has been jumping (probably even started earlier on all 3 examples, the point is however, it's not by any chance new)
- 2D jumping already on the NES
- 3D jumping already on the PS1
- MMO jumping already in WOW
Obviously to FFXIV it's innovation since it's a change, but so would be removing running speed. The point is really than in MMOs it's more of an innovation to not have jump since nowadays it's basically jumping on the bandwagon.
The point is that the lack of jump was simply a choice of design.
What however is the reason that jump is being implemented is that people want freedom. People want that the devs catter to every small silly complaint that they have, and now the devs are actually giving after, this is not good. The devs should make their own design choices, the fact that they are giving after makes me lose respect towards them. We should not get what we want like that, we should enjoy the game as it is uniquely intended.
When it comes to freedom, the most important part is to set the boundaries right, this is utterly important, freedom is good, but fail to set balance in the form of boundaries and it becomes uninteresting.
Now I'm not only talking about jump, but all the silly mounts that have been shown as well. It makes me wonder where this game is going next. -
11-05-2011, 03:02 AMBruceyBruceyBangBangYou mean the lalafell jump he showed then said "but I rejected this, it looked silly" right after? I think you think of yourself as a voice of reason into a barbaric era of MMOing, but honestly it's time to give it up. If you don't have a foundation to build on... you have nothing. SE cannot grow unless they make their game as free as it possibly can be. This is a great thing about MMOs.. and yes, that is a standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teuciont
How can you sit back and ask, "Is it really a standard!?". Yes, free roaming is a standard. It's actually one of the more basic things required of MMOs. This will be my last reply. You are too ignorant to even debate with. It's incredibly saddening. -
11-05-2011, 04:57 AMzaviermhigo
They know the jump is too high, now we're flaming jump and they're like "crap we knew it looked like crap, shouldn't of shown it" lol. I'm anti jump anyway I've never needed it ever, and if this jump is for battle than i'm even more pissed, I do not want to have to jump dodge attacks, we have the programming already to dodge moves if you simply bothered to move your character instead of eating everything.
GW2, i'm sure it has jumping, but its more dodge based, it took innovation to the next level by adding aquatic combat, and having the x y become more important in that situation. Adding jump is not innovation its just garbled up crap that's useless in every game its ever been in. It was probably invented due to lazy programming, "i don't want to make a mountain they can actually walk up, instead they'll jump like a bunny up a moutain, yeah he's a badass wizard but he has to jump up a mountain isn't that cool?" HELL NO. -
11-05-2011, 05:13 AMnasomi
Jumping makes me sad.....
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11-05-2011, 06:13 AMZoltan
The point is that there are so many other issues that need to be resolved before even considering the addition of a jump feature. That's a big reason why it's such a concern at this point.
I have yet to see anyone argue in favor of adding the jump feature other than "Woot" or "Yay" and getting over small objects.
Honestly are there really small rocks and obststacles that you cannot run over or around now? If you think that jump is going to allow you to move faster or in a straight line, then you are wrong.
They definitley should allow you to turn off the animation and ban it from cities like chocobos.
It's sad to see them adding this to FF. It was more unique in not having the feature. It is not a standard that adds to gameplay. -
11-05-2011, 06:18 AMReliquiaI completely agree. The good new is that this isn't going to be added any time soon, so there is still a small chance of this not happening. If it still is then I hope they reconsider and think well how they are going to introduce this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoltan