Please Remove the Materia Melding Crafter Restriction

Needing a craft in order to perform a meld makes sense. The craftsman is required to make or modify the gear. This is similar to repair - you need to be a crafter (of the correct level) to repair as well.

So, just like repair, provide NPCs that will do it for you for a fee. Maybe restrict those NPCs to not being able to do forbidden melds. That would make sense with the new materia compatible lore gear (which doesn't allow forbidden melds). Overmeld would be left to crafters and crafted gear.

Really, you don't want to do overmelds yourself anyway. So frustrating. Fail .... fail .... fail ...

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

I enjoy crafting in the game, but the idea of "you don't craft so you can't suggest this idea" is at it's root a bad argument to make, and someone could then just turn around and argue the opposite, and we would get no-where. :S

I hope people will see this request for what it is, not a cry to be anti-social, but rather a needed QOL improvement that benefits a vast majority of players.

This system should be fun, but currently the process is anything but fun.

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The opposite of my argument wouldn't work. "I don't craft and you do so let me do something that benefits me even though I've never experienced it?" Also I think it's fun to see your gear numbers go up, it's partly why some people play RPGs, to level and get upgrades

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

Really, you don't want to do overmelds yourself anyway. So frustrating. Fail .... fail .... fail ...

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To be honest, overmelds are rather gut-wrenching when failed over and over and over and over even for someone else. Especially if you're the one doing it for them. It's a frustrating and depressing guilt no matter who does it.

The idea of removing materia melding from crafting is ridiculous and honestly utterly stupid. I've never once known a crafter that expects a tip or payment to meld, if you ask them ahead of time, and have the catalyst/materia yourself. If they have to supply one/both things though, then yes, they deserve the payment of it. If you don't want to ask someone to do so, level your own crafters up, it's not that hard.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

The idea of removing materia melding from crafting is ridiculous and honestly utterly stupid. I've never once known a crafter that expects a tip or payment to meld, if you ask them ahead of time, and have the catalyst/materia yourself. If they have to supply one/both things though, then yes, they deserve the payment of it. If you don't want to ask someone to do so, level your own crafters up, it's not that hard.

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Only because raiding gears can now be melded is why they suddenly want this. They just don't want ot have to ask other people to meld for them, nor do they want to level crafts. They just want it easy. > >

At least make it so that if you have a level 60 crafter you can do it yourself, or make it somewhat class specific. WVR for cloth wearing classes, LTW for MNK/BRD/NIN, and BLSM for the rest. Enough of the mix and match BS.

I don't mind that you need a crafter to do it, but I don't want to have to level every craft to do it, or hunt someone down. That isn't to say I don't look for the proper people or friends. I also tip 20k per meld. I just wish I could do it myself.

Also, it'd be nice if they stopped making MNKS gear melds Leather/Leather/Leather/WEAVER/Leather. That is so annoying...

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

At least make it so that if you have a level 60 crafter you can do it yourself, or make it somewhat class specific. WVR for cloth wearing classes, LTW for MNK/BRD/NIN, and BLSM for the rest. Enough of the mix and match BS.

I don't mind that you need a crafter to do it, but I don't want to have to level every craft to do it, or hunt someone down. That isn't to say I don't look for the proper people or friends. I also tip 20k per meld. I just wish I could do it myself.

Also, it'd be nice if they stopped making MNKS gear melds Leather/Leather/Leather/WEAVER/Leather. That is so annoying...

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That wish to do it yourself is the exact reason why many of us do level all crafts. The inevitable ease that comes with being a jack of all trades is a universal feeling once you've come across an occasion where you lack it.

Admittedly, various crafts for a single job can be annoying in other ways too. "Hmmm this job seems to have a lot of Weaver stuff, maybe this equip is Weaver. Nope. Maybe Leatherworking? Nope. Armorer? No? Where the hell... Alchemy? Are you serious? Alchemy..." I'm sure some of us have run into that little annoyance from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Creating a reliance structure is not a very good way to create a social experience. It adds a scale of power.

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In this game, reliance is not really the case. Everybody has equal access to the melding feature. TC is just lazy to do so and wants a quick way to access it without giving effort. Reliance is when the game itself limits you to do something such as materials only obtainable via specialization which a character can only have 3 max.

Why don't you level a crafting class?

Pick one of the below excuses:
- It's hard. (debatable, since it's really not if you use leves)
- Not interested.
- Lazy.
- Not my style.

There isn't even a stat requirement in melding.

Everyone has access to lvl a crafter. While at the same time everyone has access to a gatherer for the supplementary mats required to meld. Whether you choose to take advantage of those opportunities is completely up to the player.

If you choose to not take advantage of the opportunity, you can easily ask another player who has to meld items for you at little to no cost to you.

The problem is many people want a handout when the handout has been there for years.

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Originally Posted by Zephyranthes

In this game, reliance is not really the case. Everybody has equal access to the melding feature. TC is just lazy to do so and wants a quick way to access it without giving effort. Reliance is when the game itself limits you to do something such as materials only obtainable via specialization which a character can only have 3 max.

Why don't you level a crafting class?

Pick one of the below excuses:
- It's hard. (debatable, since it's really not if you use leves)
- Not interested.
- Lazy.
- Not my style.

There isn't even a stat requirement in melding.

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I disagree with your first assessment, but I can see where you are coming from. I don't think that we should resort to judgements such as "TC is just lazy", it's unfair and a tad rude.

As for your question, is that a rhetoric question or are you asking me specifically? If you are asking me, I'll give my answer, and I'll choose one of your presets.

Your preset: Not interested / Not my style.

My long answer: I play FFXIV to have fun, and I tried out crafting and it is anything but fun for me. I'd honestly rather do almost anything else. I've never partaken in any game feature in any video game in the 30 years that I've been playing video games that has been so dreadfully boring. In my opinion, it is so far beyond poorly designed that I am surprised it passed it into production. That said, I understand there are those people who enjoy it, and that's great. I am definitely not going to level a crafter, and if it came down to level a crafter or you can't raid, then I would immediately unsub the game.

I hope that answers your question.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Everyone has access to lvl a crafter. While at the same time everyone has access to a gatherer for the supplementary mats required to meld. Whether you choose to take advantage of those opportunities is completely up to the player.

If you choose to not take advantage of the opportunity, you can easily ask another player who has to meld items for you at little to no cost to you.

The problem is many people want a handout when the handout has been there for years.

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You can easily do this. I just fail to understand why this is in the game as it is. It seems to be a rather poor design choice that I haven't seen any good arguments in favour of.