To be fair, I wasn't suggesting that was their reasoning, only that if maintaining the climate currently existing is valued to them then it's hard to put a $ figure on changing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malevicton
Regardless, 3rd party software is kind of irrelevant to what's in the game right now. Being worried about another program interacting with theirs is not really a valid reason to exclude some feature within their own software. (well, I suppose in a different context it could be).
And I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, but it just doesn't make sense if they chose to not include a in-game parser simply because they were worried about 3rd party parsers. Which leads me to believe it's really about the environment they want to create/maintain for their players and their reputation as a company more so than being worried about what a 3rd party application can do.
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10-15-2015, 02:59 AMwhiskeybravo
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10-15-2015, 04:29 AMbounddreamer
I got parsed last night. It was great. I had the best dps in the party.
...I am the tank.
Our parser was kinda horrified their own number was so low.
The other party members requested their numbers and then we had a productive discussion on how to improve dps. But, we're all friends and FC mates. I still think a self-parsing option should be available (not required) for everyone. And I'd like to know how I'm doing dps wise in dungeons, not only when running with my parsing friends. -
10-15-2015, 05:09 AMChif
How should ppl know how much they are doing with out parse ?
How should I know my rotation better than my friend rotation ?
How should I know if I'm the beast or the worst in my group ?
Many questions need answers
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10-15-2015, 05:45 AMGilraenYou don't really need a parser to know how well or how poor you are doing, that's been shown time and again in practically every thread that's been posted on parsers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chif
This just makes me think you want to be able to officially criticize other players than actually compare data, which is very much the exact reason people like myself are against parsers.Quote:
How should I know my rotation better than my friend rotation ?
How should I know if I'm the beast or the worst in my group ?
And again, you've gotten those answers, repeatedly, in this very thread. But it seems more you only want to see answers that extol the virtues of parsers than actually see how people have been getting on without them.Quote:
Many questions need answers
If any 1 have answers for this questions pls tell me .
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10-15-2015, 05:57 AMArchaellFrom min/maxing perspective yes you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
This just makes me feel that he wants to pull his own weight and doesn't want to hold his team back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
This brings an interesting question. How would be players going if there was no parser at all? I would imagine significant decrease of overall dps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
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I have to expand my thought a little bit more. If there were no parsers, it would lead to less dps. If there was less dps, there would be more failed dps checks. If there were more failed dps checks, there would be more failed runs. If there would be more failed runs, there would be more frustrated players. How would that affect toxic behaviour and harassment?
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10-15-2015, 06:16 AMWhiteroomActually, his question was how much, so yes he does. And your method can't give you anymore than a very rough idea, that is tainted depending on the quality of play from the rest of your team, as well as your own ability to read the instance. That is what has been shown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
Although, almost everyone who is against parsers has said differently, and said all you need to do is read a thread (where , shock! horror! The rotations have been figured out using parsers!), and hit a dummy that doesn't currently do anything more than help with muscle memory.
So to that stuff at the end of your post, people and the community have not been getting on fine without them. If you have ever read one of those how to threads on your class, you have benefitted from them. And given this thread and more to the point "The Issue Nobody Wants to Address" thread, and many others, a good chunk of people are not getting on fine at all. -
10-15-2015, 06:49 AMwhiskeybravoThis may be the best point of all the arguments. You can be against parsers, OK. But if you've read any topic about your class (BiS, rotations, stat weights, etc), watched any video guide about your class or even about a particular instance, then you've been affected, if not utterly guided, by the help of parse data. This is a fact that can not be simply brushed under the rug and ignored in any argument against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom
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10-15-2015, 07:13 AMArchaell
Let's face it. Parser itself is a tool for evaluation and improvement.
The only issue comes from insecurity about player's performance. Be it your own or somebody else's.
How can we fix this insecurity? -
10-15-2015, 08:04 AMFourbestintoner
If they're not going to implement an official parse they should at least be giving me, the best dps, 90+ rolls on shits in Alex.
I wouldn't mind the 300dps ivl200drg as much if I wouldn't have to redo A1-4 50 times a day.
That's my solution.
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10-15-2015, 08:10 AMArchaellAs much as I like the idea of reward based on your contribution... that would cause worldwide riots. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner
GL with your shaft.